Eyes on the Sky! Kill Your Phone! (& Please Be Quiet)
Your nervous system knows the truth before your mouth does: you’re tired of being “on.” We start with the tiny stuff that somehow isn’t tiny at all, nail salon small talk, the sensory weirdness of having nails, the executive function it takes to schedule self care, and the relief of simply saying “we don’t have to talk.” For Gen X women juggling high "face time" work and busy lives, silence isn’t awkward. It’s oxygen.
From there we swing into the big stuff: hangover math, why going out costs a fortune now, and what it means that Gen Z drinks less. Then we look up. The Artemis mission and modern NASA content crack open something we miss: perspective, wonder, and actual hope. But even that comes with a 2026 problem, AI is everywhere, and it’s getting harder to trust your own eyes.
We also get honest about what social media has done to empathy and privacy. Why are people filming strangers in public? Why do phones come out when someone needs help? What happens when your childhood and worst moments become searchable content forever? We talk Facebook deletion, consent, diaries, and why Gen X may be the last generation that got to mess up off the record. If you want real connection, check out our L.Y.L.A.S. community too.
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00:00 - Nails And No-Patience Beauty Routines
05:50 - Small Talk Fatigue And Quiet Boundaries
08:24 - Night Owl Life And ADHD Time
13:20 - Hangovers Gen Z Drinking And Z Biotics
19:37 - LYLAS (Love You Like a Sis) Community And How It Works
21:52 - Concert Plans And Record Store Day
25:45 - Artemis Hope And AI Doubt
34:24 - Phones Over Help And Lost Empathy
42:41 - Quitting Facebook Privacy And Consent
50:34 - War Talk Gaffes And Market Manipulation
57:28 - Pulp Fiction Quotes And Culture War
01:00:29 - Where To Find Us And Leave Stories
Nails And No-Patience Beauty Routines
MeganI'm Megan Bennett. I'm Lesley Meier. And this is Gen X Women Are Sick of This Shit. Hi, Lesley. Look at your nails. Well, part of them are kind of falling off already, but yeah. Hi, Megan. Fancy nails.
LesleyI just got like they're so pretty.
MeganThank you.
LesleyYou're like a little my little pony rainbow nail girl.
MeganMy Lisa Frank nails.
LesleyThat's totally what they are. They look like rainbow holographic trapper keeper, but in pink.
MeganSo they they do make uh uh metallic cat's eye type nail polish. So that's what this is. So they put it on and then they get a magnet and they like no sweep it over there and it makes all makes the little lines.
LesleyFancy lady. I know. I always think it's so pretty. I do you get you're just done then, because you're probably not magnetizing yourself. No, are you?
MeganNo, I have somebody else do it because I don't have the coordination to be able to paint my my right hand with my left hand.
LesleyWasn't that always like the torture as like a young person? When I care, I cannot, I can't this is too long. I cannot tolerate having nails. It freaks me out. But when I was in like middle school or high school, learning, learning to be a lady and what society expected of me, and I was still experimenting, you would get like this one beautiful hand, and then the hand that you use the most, if you're right-handed, always looked like just like dog shit. I mean, it was fucking awful. Yep. Nothing to be done for, except all the tricks of like, I would lick my finger and then like spread, like smooth out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You would sort of like, because if you let it dry it a little bit, you could kind of like spit on them and mush the nail polish around.
MeganAnd I have zero patience for like regular nail polish anymore, like the whole drying process. So they have to be gel, or it's like forget about it. Like I have no patience.
LesleyYou're like, I can't, I'm not coordinated and I'm not willing to wait. How fast can you do this and make it look amazing? Right.
MeganI will pay you well. You guys have 20 minutes, I'm telling you. Just get it done. That's amazing. Cure that shit. I've got to go.
LesleyI go for one pedicure a year on my birthday.
MeganNice.
LesleyAnd I get gel done and it lasts the whole year. Until like October, November, December. I'm still cutting that shit off. Because it's gel. It stays on. Yeah. Oh yeah. And it lasts enough during the summer. Like, I'll kind of trim it. And it's like nobody's looking like it's a good thing.
MeganI always do the exact same thing on vacations, like right before vacation. And then it's like a little take home memory of like look at that one time I spent money on that. I went on a vacation. I did. That bright pink nail polish is left over for that vacation.
LesleyBecause when I like keep it, I can't justify spending the dollars. And if I'm like keeping it up, it becomes another thing I have to think about, like executive function, the scheduling board, which is so dumb. It's fucking getting your nails done. It's 100%. It's a real thing though. And then it becomes like weirdly obsessive because I'll forget about it. And then it's and then they always want to do the next thing. And it just yeah, I have no control. So once a year, one and done.
MeganI I go, I used to go pretty regularly get my nails done. And I kind of fell off like over the winter, mostly because I just didn't want to leave the house.
LesleySure. Of course. Yeah. Nobody's looking.
MeganI don't want to go to the house. And then I realized the other thing I don't like about it is the fucking small talk.
LesleyAh, yes.
MeganI don't want to talk about it. I don't want to talk.
LesleyNope. I'm just here to do a thing.
MeganRight. And inevitably. The girls are very, very nice that I go, I go to the place at Bottle Works or whatever. Oh, yeah. Very, very nice. That's where I got my pedicure done. Beautiful. They're it's great. They're lovely people, but I don't want to talk about the last movie I saw or what I want to do this weekend, or I just want to I let them know.
LesleyI was like, we don't we don't have to don't worry about having to talk to me. Yeah, you don't have to. I I say that. I was like, I think I probably should.
MeganMaybe that would make it better. And I'd be like, I could just go.
LesleyBecause I think they feel I mean, I would as a service provider. Like you kind of there's this like social like it's awkward if you just sit there and do it. Neuro, what is it? Neurotypical people have this like social expectation that they get chatted with, right? Or like this is how we're I don't know. I don't understand why we I don't think anybody around has to talk to me. No doing it. I want to go and have silence. Right.
MeganI I'll put ear earbuds in and just listen to music and that would be okay.
LesleyI'll get my pedicure done. I'll read my book. I don't we don't have to talk. Yeah, okay.
MeganMaybe I maybe that I'll try that next time and see if it's less miserable.
LesleyI will say it because I'm like, we don't don't feel like you have to chat with me. Yeah. Like I will inquire because I care about you as a human. Sure. Absolutely.
MeganI'm like, I want to know how's things, how are things going? Are you doing okay? Yes.
LesleyAnd then when we're done with that, like you're gonna have to ask me because I'd feel no pressure. Right. Feel no pressure. Just do your job, go into your own zen, you know, right? Listen to your own podcast. Right. And just enjoy yourself. I like it. I'm gonna do zero obligation. Very good advice. I don't know. Maybe we should just get like a little printed card that we hand to people and say, like, off the hook, you do not have to chat with me. I mean I will give you the most glowing review about how amazing you are.
MeganYou're free to just think about whatever you want. Silence. Talk to somebody else if you want to. That's okay.
LesleyI don't want to chat with people when I'm getting a massage.
MeganOh my god, no.
LesleyDon't talk to me.
MeganNo, it's because I might fall asleep a little bit.
LesleyWe're not filling. And that's okay. Don't it's I come for the silence. That's what I'll say.
Small Talk Fatigue And Quiet Boundaries
MeganThis is this is my time. I'm here for the silence. To not have to talk or be on to think about anything. Right. Like, okay, I like it. I think that's a really good suggestion.
LesleyWell, and I wonder, because we both work with like high face time jobs, like if there's something to that.
MeganLike I you're just done. At the end of the day, I'm just I don't want to talk. Well, I'm in my pajamas by 7 p.m.
LesleyWhich my husband thinks is really fucking funny.
MeganBut I'm like, I'm like, I'm looking at my watch and I'm like, mmm, it's seven. We were out to dinner last night and it was eight before I got home, and I'm like, mmm, that's an hour late.
LesleyDo you have a do you have to get up? What time do you have to go to work? I have to be there at eight. Oh, okay. Now ask me if I'm ever there at eight. Oh, I know you're not. No way because ADHD just does not allow for that. Even if you are walking out of the house on time, you will not because it feels painful. It's not right. You're not the boss of my time.
MeganI'll be there by 10.
LesleyWait, wait. That's 90 minutes.
MeganOkay, but to be fair, I I do work in an environment where I work sometimes on the weekends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a 24-7 vibe. Right. Like I'm editing video or something at like you know, Sunday afternoon. So I just do not feel that bad about it.
LesleyYeah.
MeganI'm sure somebody is having a hissy fit somewhere about me rolling in late.
LesleySome people really love the time and the on time, and it has a lot of meaning for them. And in certain instances, it is very like I'm on time to doctor's appointments. I am on time for my clients within a five minute window because sometimes it's their time. It is their time. All of that stuff. But if this is like at all flexible or optional, or like it's a group, I just don't it's and it has you'll see me when you see me. And it's I just turn a little bit of that executive function off. Yeah. I am not ever stressed. Me either. Like, unless there is a boundary on my other side, right? Like if I've got some place.
MeganWell, like today, right? We originally talked about recording at 11.
LesleyRight.
MeganAnd it's record store day. So you had to go to record store day. I texted and said, I'm standing in line.
LesleyAnd I'm like, nope. Totally good. All good. We had flexibility today. That worked, but otherwise I would have, yeah, I would have been like, all right, Jeff, I gotta go. And I would have gotten my shit off the couch a little bit sooner. Like I got up because I got up at nine because I knew you were coming. And I was like, oh, I need to go drink water.
MeganI'm glad you got a nap.
Night Owl Life And ADHD Time
LesleyI did it was really good. I went out last night dancing with the 24s, the 24-year-olds for the birthdays. And I'm an old lady, and I only went out. I was out in public for less than two hours, and I only had two drinks while I was there. And I had had three during the course of the day, you know, and so I got but I had a headache by the time I got back. Now, some of that is a really bad dentist. My ears are ringing so fucking hard. But I also just had not I should have had a bigger meal, all these things. You just never know. You should have been in bed by 8 p.m. with your pajamas on at seven.
MeganI'm just saying.
LesleyI am such a night owl. I do not like, but I also don't start my work day until 10. Yeah. So I and I can sleep for about six hours. I know brain health. I should be sleeping for eight. I know. It's just when I wake up. So I'll be up until like midnight and then I go to bed.
MeganI was for a long time I was doing the midnight thing, and just because I get watching something on TV or you know, I'm trying to crochet a blanket for Gilliam. Fucking hilarious. Like I am learning, relearning how to do that. Yeah, yeah. I'm so badass.
LesleySuch a Gen Z now.
MeganOh my god, it's so funny. Lesley, I started I started this blanket. I started it probably right before Christmas. Oh. And it's coming along. I'm so proud. But but I'm like, you know what? There are no rules. I can do anything I want. You can't. Sometimes it's a single crochet. Sometimes it's a double crochet. Sometimes it's like, you know, every row is the same. Like I'm not doing it mirrored, but like it might be like two rows of double, one row of single. Yeah. It's just like it's all over the fucking place. It's just so funny.
LesleyYou're keeping yourself interested. That's what happens here. I'm like, eh, you know, it's all good. It'll look fine. I you started around Christmas. Uh-huh. We're in April. I'm looking at my watch. It's April. You have kept up a project for five months.
MeganIt's it's literally like watching TV and like just doing it. Okay. And and I've, you know, if I'm just sitting there, it's giving me something to do with my hands, which is nice. But yeah, it's okay.
LesleyWell done. You are maintaining focus over an extended period of time.
MeganIf I ever had to do a pattern, I would probably I would have given up a long time ago.
LesleyI'm done.
MeganI would have been like, don't need that anymore.
LesleyThat's where that like weird perfectionism goes. Like you're doing it right and you want it to look exactly right. And it's just like I can cross stitch, but if you ever looked at the back of my cross-stitch, you would be like, this person's a sociopath. We should create that test. It's like, how much of a sociopath are you based on the back of our cross stitch? It's one of those like weird internet puzzle ad things that they're like, just by looking at this picture, you'll know how traumatized you were in your childhood.
MeganRight. Can you draw this turtle? Right. No one cannot. Show us the back of your cross pitch. I did.
LesleyWe will pathologize and diagnose you. We will put you away. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
MeganI think that's brilliant. It's so bad. So, but I don't, I'm not a crafty person by nature. So it's sort of like this is she's crafty. Right. I'm not. I'm really, I want to be so bad, and I'm just I don't have the patience for the structured stuff.
LesleyHeard. You're living your best crafty dreams. Yeah.
MeganI think that's great. That's all you gotta do, girl. I am a hodgepodger.
LesleyWhich I think is you just make it up as you go. And that that's totally fine. It's a little bit next to like a mod podger. Mod podge. Is that what that is? Like when you do the like paper glue thing. Isn't that the same?
MeganIs it hodgepodge, mod podge?
LesleyDecoupage.
MeganDecoupage.
LesleyI think we can like decoupage things. Nice.
MeganYes.
LesleyCollages. Collage podge and hodgepodge. Oh, I love all of them. Collage podge. This is a great series of words.
MeganYes. It's exercise for your mouth.
LesleyWe're shalang.
MeganHow are you feeling now? Right now.
LesleyDo you feel like you're I don't know, refreshed and so we've done all I got up and I had some coffee and then some water. And I was like, oh, I need some food. So I did pay someone to bring me Gracie McDonald's. Yes, you did. I had three or four bites of that. Like you have to have And for not a good reason, right? Like I would had I gone, I don't know. I don't know. Some I don't know. Had I had a better reason, I would be like less, but I was judgmental about it. I'm like, this is fucking stupid. I this is ridiculous. So I had a couple bites of McDonald's. It's the Tylenol.
MeganThe grease breaks through all the funk that you have when you're hungover.
Hangovers Gen Z Drinking And Z Biotics
LesleyAnd then when the headache went away, I was like, okay, cool. It's the headache. I cannot tolerate the headache. So then I drank some water and I took a little nap and I finished the rest of my greasy breakfast and I got some more caffeine.
MeganAnd so here's my plug for uh I do think we need we need sponsors for this particular podcast. And if you're listening, Z Biotics, oh yeah, you told me about it. Yeah. Like the younger generations are a little iffy on it, right? Like the alcohol industry is a little bit worried because Gen Z, younger millennials, they they are not necessarily drinkers and Gen and Gen Alpha is quite as much.
LesleyYeah, yeah, yeah.
MeganThey're just getting to that point and they're like, no, thanks. I'd like a mock tail, please.
LesleyAnd there's another part of that too. Everything's so fucking expensive.
Megan100% true.
LesleyLike, you're not gonna go out and buy a 17, 17 cocktail. Right. No. You're just not gonna do that. Gen X? Yeah, probably. But we also know that we're closer to the end than the beginning. So we're like, and having that cocktail is just gonna get us a little bit closer. Like have a great time. But there are definitely, you know, changing, changing types. Yes. But this is all back to Z Bio.
MeganYou're right. Like it's it really is, it's super expensive. But but Gen X is all like we're still drinking. And Z Biotics is one of those products that where you take it before you have your first drink, and it apparently like takes care of the the shit in your gut that makes you get a high hangover.
LesleyWell, that's cool.
MeganYeah.
LesleyIt like depre poisons us. Yeah, pre-de-poisons us.
MeganSo that whatever you put in there is like not, you know, not turning into a toxin in your gut.
LesleyI mean, it is like now that we know the science, we're just poisoning ourselves. A hundred percent. Absolutely. It's carcinogenic. Billions of cancers are fed by alcohol.
MeganAnd also But maybe this is I'm not gonna presume that this is a cure for cancer or anything, but it's a preventative of some kind. Maybe I don't know. But it it could there's your free preventative, there's your free plug Z biotics.
LesleyIt's a preventative for cancer, probably. But also, like we've been drinking for millennia, yeah, for a long time. Human beings enjoy being altered, and so it's not like other generations are giving up being altered. No, correct. They're doing different substances, which will then have its own trajectory, you know, path throughout history and pendulum swing and all of that good stuff.
MeganYep. It's probably cheaper.
LesleyMaybe. Probably, probably, probably until you can like go to a bar on the regular. Yeah, you know, and they'll be like, yeah, and then you're like paying all the premiums for space. But then we're also losing third spaces and communal spaces because they're not drinking as much and pubs are dying and all these things. The THC beverages, you can find those at like Total Wine. Those are really expensive. Yes, yeah.
MeganI guess you're getting the best of all worlds though.
LesleyYou get in the best of all worlds. What are we talking about now? Going out, drinks.
MeganWell, I'm glad you survived your outfit.
LesleyI did, and it was it was it was really fun, and it was funny because like uh where we went dancing. I used to go when I was in my 20s, and now I am twice that. So it's like nice, and I'm like, oh, I still love dancing. And I could also do this at 8 p.m. Like 8 to 10 with a little bit more like kind of 80s Madonna Share vibes. Oh, would have been great. Or on any current EDM, I would have been amazing. Yeah. So it's I'm out with just like right in between like in a I was in a musical gap where like I had less awareness. So there would be occasional like weavings in of something from like that you and I would know. And then there would be something contemporary that I would know, but then there was a whole lot in the middle. It was like younger millennial, youngest millennial music. And I was like, oh no, I was raising babies then, like so. For them, it was even a throwback. They were like, oh my gosh. And I was like, you guys are so cute. Dance on, my friends. Super, super fun and super, super loud. My ears are still ringing. So that was the other part. I was like, oh, I don't remember. Do you have like do you have loops? Have you ever used loops? No, I should. Do you have them? I do. I really like them. Okay, I wonder because I see commercials all the time. Yeah.
MeganThey're really good. They like I have the loop switch, and you can do all three. Yeah. There's one that's like a focus feature that will help you if you're in a crowded situation talking to somebody. Per. So it's sort of like it really does help. It does help a little bit. It's not, it's not like um, I know the new Apple AirPods will focus. I have those. And I actually went out and bought myself the meta glasses because I'm dumb like that. And well, I bought them for work. I bought them for work mostly for content creation because I can like have them on and like record what's happening at work. Yes. And be and I see that. So that's why. So I can record with my phone and with my eyeballs and be able to like have two different angles of things.
LesleyThat's fucking amazing.
MeganSo it's cool. That's why I did it. But they do have a feature in there. So if I wore those in a crowded restaurant and you and I were having a conversation, it was super loud, I'd be able to hear everything like crystal clear. Because it's it really works. Those are wild.
LesleyI wish they were not owned by Meta.
MeganCor right. I mean too. But I feel like my strength hurts a little bit for that. But it that technology is gonna be.
LesleyAnd you are really, I mean, that's your industry, like, so you don't have a choice but to like be a part of it. It's we were talking about that earlier. I have been slowly over the past few years, it's probably since COVID times, been removing things from Facebook. And maybe we, this could be a longer conversation. We could like take a little pause or kind of. Yeah, let's take a pause.
LYLAS (Love You Like a Sis) Community And How It Works
MeganYeah, let's take a break and then we'll come back and we'll talk more about that. That sounds like a great idea. I like it. Gen X Women Are Sick of the Shit is supported by Lilass. Love you like a sis, a Gen X women's social club. What's Lilas, Megan? Lilas is our uh off platform, off uh the Books of Faces, off all of the other traditional social media. Uh, it is our space and place for Gen X women to come together, have conversations, meet each other. It's a social club.
LesleyIt is a social club. It's a membership-based club. Memberships are $10 a month. Um, that does help support us in growing the platform. We purchased a platform that would host a network of women so that you could come together and meet each other in real time.
MeganIn a safer space, yes, than a traditional social media platform and a much more personal space. So what do we do there, Leslie?
LesleyWe host movie nights where we live stream some of our favorites as they are available to us for group watches of films from the 70s, 80s, and 90s. We host a space for a monthly book club. We host trivia nights. Trivia nights once a month. We have a live text chat. Four prizes, even. Four prizes. That's true. Um, we the space is able to host like weekly text chats so that you can kind of check in in real time with people. I would say the critical difference between kind of what this space is and any other social media space that I've experienced is that it is active. You will have to engage in it or be engaged in it by other people. So it's not like a passive consumption thing.
MeganIt's like making connections. Yep. And if that's what you're looking for, the opportunity to meet other people, to find people who are maybe in the same similar spaces as you are. Like-minded, same time phase of life, navigating all of those transitions, then this might be the right place for you. So check out Laddie Last. You can learn more about it at Genxwomenpod.com.
LesleyAnd we're back. We're back. Yeah, we were just talking off air. You're gonna go do something fun tonight.
MeganI I'm staying out past. My bedtime. I'm so proud of you. Are you gonna wear pajamas though? Uh um underneath my winter coat because it's freaking cold out today. No, I'll probably I'll wear something warm. It won't be fancy because I will have a coat on. But it's yeah, it's a concert outside. It's a band called Johnny Socco, which they in Indy Long time. Right. They were a Bloomington band in the late 80s, early 90s. And they Mike Wiltrout, who's the lead singer, I've I've known him for a long time. I didn't know him back in the original Johnny Socco days, but I since met him and hang out, not hang out, but I see him pretty regularly around. I mean, I've stalked him. It's fine. I've stalked him. He know he knows me, like my name. We're best friends. He's smiled. I send him letters. I just want him to know how important he is. I mean, if I saw him in public, he would know who I was. He would say hi. He'd be like, hey, what's up? Or he'd be like, sup. Sup. Sup, Megan. Anyway, like they they traveled around as when when we were all much younger, and they were, they're kind of like a ska band. So lots of pogo, lots of bouncing, lots of jumping, really fun music, lots of dancing. None of us are young enough and fit enough to do any of that now. So it'll be very interesting to see Mike come out as like as the lead of Johnny Sacco, because I'm I was used to as a kid, watch as a kid, as a young person watching him, like, you know, with all the all the energy. And now it'll be like if he doesn't come out on a on a little like personal scooter, I will be shocked.
LesleyThat would be so like that would be totally how I expect this this day to go. That sounds miraculous. So yeah, we're doing that. But wait, they're not, are they a ton? They're not a ton older than a man. Oh no, no, no. Okay. It's like we're still like, I think we're the same age. In age, okay, great. Yeah. I I love that your internal younger self imagines him as way ancient.
MeganOh no, I just see him being like the a snarky guy who would do that as like a like being his age, right?
LesleyYou're just like, yeah, we're not doing that bullshit in the body.
MeganYeah, I'm not, I'm not bouncing. Forget it.
LesleyArthur is fucking sucks. That's right. That sounds like so much fun. I hope you have a great time. Thanks. It'll be good. Take some what are those little hand warmers? There will be hand warmers.
MeganI do have a battery-powered coat, so I may have to rush home and like charge that for a little while, which is so stupid. I do have a battery-powered coat. I am um a whiny baby bitch. That's hey, but you're going out. You're not this is my second time today going out. That's right. I got up this morning and went to R Record Record Store Day. I'm so proud of you. Stood in line in the rain. And you got some great shit. I did. I got a new Jesus and Mary Chain LP, which is a gr with great songs on it. I got two cure albums. They have The Greatest Hits and The Greatest Hits acoustic.
LesleyAmazed. I would love to say that.
MeganI got Orchestra Maneuvers in the Dark. They had one for record store day, which is really cool. Jeff got a kiss album.
LesleyNice.
MeganHe tried to get Stone Temple Pilots, but they were sold out of that one sometime with there, which is a bummer. But yeah, it was good. It was a great ha.
LesleyI mean $200. But you stood outside for $200 worth of your life.
MeganRight. I was not coming away empty with nothing. It's a rain. That was gonna get me some fucking records.
LesleyWell, I was laying on the couch nursing my McDonald's, feeling feeling my age in a different way.
Artemis Hope And AI Doubt
MeganYeah, no, I was just watching feeling my toes go numb and it was cool. That's amazing. Again, whiny bitch baby. Okay, time anyway. I don't know. What were you talking about? Oh, we were gonna talk about like current events, right? Oh, yeah, relevant things for Gen X.
LesleyI was like, we gotta fucking talk about the fucking Artemis. Yeah, Nessa. That's so cool. We were all like I was, I watched the launch.
MeganWe can talk about it now.
LesleyRight. And so many people were like, oh, it didn't blow up. It also was magical. Like I got tearful. I was like, that's really cool.
MeganDo you know what I really am pissed off about though? Is the fact that AI is everywhere? And so I keep seeing video and stuff, and I'm like, is that real? Is that real? Is that real? Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like you have to like scan everything. Like, this is the this is something that the Artemis, some video from the surface of the moon that the Artemis and blah blah blah. I'm like, is it real?
LesleyI just go to NASA. Like I just am only paying attention to NASA's content. And then like the astronauts themselves have like shared some things that I it was just so amazing. I think that like space exploration when we were kids. I mean, we'd only been doing it for like 20 less than 20 years. 20 years, yeah. And then it because of the and so like this loss of hope, record scratch, right? Yeah, and then it's like, oh, okay. So it is really cool. There's so much to be learned, and there's just like we've learned so much in terms of science and and just how our bodies work and like dry eyes, you know, like but there's so much more that can be tested in space, you know, that can be studied in space and done safely, and just like their like daily exercise routine, just like how they're combating the effects of like not having gravity on the body, like it's just so important.
MeganWe have the combination of the Artemis launch and that all that amazing stuff that was that they were able to do and going around you know, the other side of the moon and seeing what we never see, all of that. We had that at the same time that Project Hail Mary came out as a movie. Did you see that yet?
LesleyI haven't yet. I know. I know.
MeganOkay, first of all, I gotta go. I gotta get it off my gotta get it off my chest. Ryan Gosling's my boyfriend.
LesleyOh, I'm so happy for it. Congratulations.
MeganBut I love him a little bit. I love him a little bit. I love him a little bit. Uh I do it. That movie is so completely brilliant. And I just sat at the end of it and I'm just sobbing. And I looked at my husband and I'm like, I, you know, it's not, I'm not crying because of Ryan Gosling, but I could be because it's so pretty. But no, I'm like, I'm I'm just just weeping. And I was like, I don't know what the fuck's wrong with me. Like, I really can't even talk. I'm so affected by this. Yeah, that's amazing. And Jeff goes, you know what that is? That's just hope.
LesleyYeah. I think that's what that feels like as I think that's true, yeah, yeah, yeah. And not having had it. Did you ever because I haven't seen that yet, I'm just trying to like put did you ever watch Contact with Jody Foster?
MeganYes. This is this is because he's alone, right?
LesleyThe whole time.
MeganIt's him and his little Oh, I'm not telling you anything.
LesleyI'm not telling you anything because it's I've seen many, many clips, but it's like, you know, and they're all like joyful.
MeganYes, you have to go see it. It's so, so good. Have the whole experience. It's it's contact-ish. Okay. I think it's more like Interstellar and ET if they had a baby.
LesleyOkay, got you. Interstellar was yeah. Yeah. The kids, my kids got me to watch Interstellar. A, they used to watch it in high school and get really high, but also it taught them a ton. Yeah. Like it just shaped their perspective on humanity and relationships. Right. And it's just one of those, like it caught them at the right time. Yeah. And I remember contact, I think I was in college, and I both read the book and saw the movie. And it was, you know, and I was a like theater theology kid and I fucking love space. And, you know, it's just all those big questions. It is a movie that gives you big perspective. Right.
MeganRight. And time. Yeah. Just the thought of how far away things are. Yes. Which is I took an astrology class or not astrology, astronomy. Astronomy. Same. Me too. I took an astronomy class in college. And I made it through one third of the class. Oh, okay. And then I had to stop, I had to drop out. And I had to drop out because it blew my fucking mind. Like it was because of how when you start talking about time and space and how big things are, I was like, I cannot do this. I was just clearly not in the right space for it. Sure. But I'm like, I I can't, I can't do that.
LesleyMy brain doesn't I don't want to go to there.
MeganYou can't get there. It's like hurts.
LesleyYeah, yeah. This is I love physicists. I love physicists.
MeganOh, I love all of it. And I and I could do it now. I could take that class now.
LesleyAt that time, at that age, it was just like, oh my God.
MeganThere's a gal that I follow on Instagram that she's an astrophysicist. I'm sure you could remember her name, but she was talking about there's now they're they've they're actually mapping galaxies. Yes. And they're using AI to help with that. For sure. But they're taking all of these pictures of, you know, the sky, and they're able to map all these galaxies, and they're they're finding that there's like basically 300 times more galaxies than they ever thought there was. Right. And it's just like it's so magnificent. I know. It's it's amazing. It is absolutely amazing. And if you think about it like that, you're like, why the fuck are we putting up with all the shit that we do here and all the fights that we have? We are all we have. Yeah.
LesleyWe truly like alone in the universe. Yeah. Or like not important enough to engage with. Right.
MeganOr they would try to engage, but then we do a big old cover-up and we don't really want to talk about enough.
LesleyRight. But then, like, really, like it's sort of I know. This will offend. No, I'm not gonna go. I was like, this will offend a lot of people. I mean, it's just like, okay, but is that because we're so egocentrical, like egocentric as human beings that like we have sort of sit from a position of like, well, we will go and find other intelligent life based on our experience of ourselves in the universe.
MeganCome on now.
LesleyOr like, I don't even think we can fathom what that would be like. And then it's like, and why would you want this place?
MeganI mean, we look kind of hot, but you don't really want to fuck with us because we're a whole, we're a mess.
LesleyRight. An ugly mess. Like, but I think that's what science and space exploration brings. Like, we haven't had a reason to fucking look up and like pull back and remember that like we are this small blue world, this like big blue marble, all those shows that we grew up with that were about like this is how connected we are. Yeah. Nothing there's nothing is in isolation.
MeganNo, there's been this big gap, with the exception of like contact and and interstellar and things like that. There's been this big gap of even pop culture around that. Like we of course Star Wars, Star Trek and stuff like that.
LesleyYeah, it's a franchise.
MeganSure. Like that's that's there, but I feel like we don't have this the science specials. We don't have the yeah, the things like cosmos. Right. Like so there's a big, there's been a big gap, and my hope is with the Artemis and all of the interests now. Maybe we'll start talking about it a little bit more. Yes. And yes, yes, yes. You know, supposedly there's gonna be a you know, a landing base or something on the moon someday. Yes.
LesleyThere is their whatever. Their next mission is there's Artemis III in 2027 and Artemis IV in 2028, and that will be the first crewed moon surface landing for the Artemis program, which is really cool. And then they're working on the Rosalind Franklin Mars rover mission. I have not read all these things with the European Space Agency, which is so cool. Go follow NASA, follow all of these astronauts. It's amazing. So cool. I love it.
MeganHope well, go see that movie, and if you don't, I'll drag you.
LesleyNope, I'll I'll watch.
MeganI mean, you can't sit there and watch me cry for I will cry with two hours.
LesleyWe'll bring like a big box of tissues and as a therapist.
MeganI think there is a, I won't say anything about it, but there is a part in there that I think you're gonna be like that you're really gonna that's gonna hit. There's a part that's gonna hit. So I think that'll be interesting.
LesleyI think that there is gosh, this is pretty existential. It's like if there's one perspective, not knowing what you're talking about, but I'm just thinking about like perspective, space, all of this, and then the perspective that I get as a therapist. If there's one like feeling that I could just insert in everybody's programming, it is that like the deep awareness that no matter what you think about what you're going through, you are not having any worse of an experience than anyone else.
MeganRight. No, that's true.
LesleyLike I don't care what you think about how bad you are or what you've gone through or the things that are happening to you. It is like I don't you are not alone, is absolutely true. But like if I could insert that into your cells on a cellular level, that would just automatically give you the thought of like, I am not unique in this, I am not alone in this, and there is somebody else who can guide me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, and that is so very deeply lost right now. And I think that it harms ourselves because we are almost rejecting empathy for other human beings, but I also think we feel deeply ashamed about it.
MeganI I certainly hope because this is this ties into the social media thing.
LesleyAnd I think that's why, you know, when you see moments, and we do have to like scan for AI, of like people being harmed on the street or like someone getting their bags stolen or whatever, 25 people will turn around with their phones and one person will help. And I think that that is a collective shame experience. It is this very like protective armored wall that we put up to not be impacted by somebody else. And it is under the guise of what we believe is documenting, right? But documenting doesn't do shit if we don't intervene.
MeganWell, and it's it's it's becoming such commonplace, right? I'm standing in line. I'm standing in line at record store day, and you know, we're all wet and we're all standing in umbrellas, and there are people who are walking down the line who are like, oh, this is a really long line. I'll take a video of all these people standing in line. And I'm like, motherfucker, like, did I give you permission to videotape me? And what is the what's the beauty of this? Yes. Right. So I like dip my umbrella down so you can't see me. But I'm like, really? Yep. And it was not just, you know, not just one person. There were multiple people doing it. But come on.
LesleyIt becomes like a reflex to like fill the space. Right.
MeganAnd then we don't somebody somewhere is gonna be really interested in the social interaction and all of that.
LesleyAnd there's like, you know, the the kind of social norms around like privacy in events and public spaces have very much disappeared. And so then, like, there is this high, like if you're just walking down the street and you stumble and fall, yeah, and somebody across the street is recording that building at that moment, and then they see you, you could become content, right? Oh, look at this human being falling. Aren't they a jackass? Right. And it's like stop. Yeah, like go pick that person up. Bullshit. Yes, go help. But there is this like embarrassment around being emotionally vulnerable and helping people because we have a social media gotcha culture. We don't have a social media empathy culture. Right. And so I went so if you want to start a trend, do that. But then there's also there is a piece of that culture that is out there, but it is around it's oh gosh, how do you label it? It's the like profit part. It's like I'm gonna act like an unhoused person to see if another unhound person will be kind to me. Yeah, and then I'm gonna surprise them with money.
MeganYeah.
LesleySo it's this like marketing, I'm a good person. Right. Go be a good person and don't expect anything. Don't talk about it. There was don't put it on the internet.
MeganRight. The only one that I do really like, there is when there's one guy that's in England, which that tracks because generally speaking, it's slightly nicer culture, just as far as like being a little more empathetic and a little more, you know.
LesleyI wonder if they would agree. I'd be so curious how they're curious too.
MeganI feel like they would say, like, no things are are shit now compared to where they used to be. But I think like yes. So they did give us the great British bake-off, and let's be honest, it is like the sweetest thing in the world. Yes, that's our marker. Thank you. There is right, like that's all that gets me through the winter. But there is a there's a guy who has an Instagram account and he just walks around like these streets in these little British towns, and he hands bouquets of flowers to ladies. Oh, I saw that. It's so cute. Like, yes, you're probably making money off of the like empathy porn kind of thing. But I'm like, I don't give a shit. I'll watch that all day long. You're making that little lady happy. You just give her, you give her flowers, and meta can pay you, and I'm fine with it.
LesleyAnd that's fine. And then, like, when you see that, go do the next thing, right? Walk out of your house, right, buy some flowers, and hand them to somebody and don't record it for content.
MeganHere's a question.
LesleyBe nice.
MeganAnd we'll get into like like what life was like for us before. Right, right. But when was the last time? I see you have a Starbucks cup. When was the last time anybody bought your drink in front of you at Starbucks?
LesleyOh.
MeganHow long ago has it been?
LesleyIt's been a long time, but I actually stopped on purpose because I found out that the breeze is hated that shit. Oh, did it? Made their lives hell. Okay. And people didn't know when to stop doing it. Like it got really awkward. Okay. And so I intentionally quit doing that. Yeah. And if I got it, but I wonder if not pay it forward.
MeganEverybody else just stopped for that reason. Because I don't I don't, I don't know. And I'm not suggesting we all all go out and do that. I just think it's interesting that like nobody was doc you're not documenting it, right? You're just being nice to the person behind you.
LesleyYes, yes, yes. Theoretical. And it was like, you know, in the drive-thru lines, I did hear that at some point they were just like, please fucking stop doing this. Because it created this weird, like people felt obligated and they were like, oh, but I really can't afford to like like that's so kind, and I can't afford to pay for the order behind me. Like, how do I get out right this? Yeah. So, and like that's also sort of like we could just be standing next to each other in line, and I got you, and you're just like, I got your coffee, or like, it seems like you needed this. But then that's worry, right?
MeganBecause then you're like, not then you have to have a conversation. We're in the drive-thru.
LesleyThat's what we need, right? Right. You're right. That's the issue. Yeah, it's like easier to feel good about ourselves and just do something nice. Right. And it is kind. Like when it first spontaneously started happening, you're like, oh, that's so cool. Thank you. But we're still not knowing people. Right. No, you're right differently. Which that empathy piece, that hope piece, like in order to have access to those feelings, we need to be looking at each other and and talking and being like, you know, how's your day? We have to put our fucking phones down. That's what we have to do. Yes. Yes. And we're also working in like a content-driven world. I mean, you and I were talking about that, just like some of each of our jobs, my other job and your primary job is doing stories. Telling stories, which is how I stay focused, right? I am sharing a story about something that is really valuable. Right. So if I can keep it there, I can feel I'm right in my soul.
MeganThat is, and that's why that's I mean, that's truly why I took the job at this nonprofit because otherwise I was doing that, but for everyone, right? Like, and I couldn't really focus on a story because there really wasn't. It was just like shh lock that you're putting out on the internet. Right. And who needs that?
Quitting Facebook Privacy And Consent
LesleyAnd you're like turning and burning stuff all the time. Right. So crazy. So this was part of the conversation that we were having about Facebook and how I've slowly overlooked. Yeah, since COVID, I have slowly just like deleted every I if I get on, I delete all the memories and all of the things that I've written and all of this stuff. I started originally just pulling photos off like albums and things, because when Facebook was a thing when it started, and I think I first got on like 2000, what was it? Probably five. Wow.
MeganProbably later than that. Because I think it was, wasn't it like 2000? Because I had nine or so that it was in the gallery.
LesleyAnd I closed my gallery in 2008. Okay. And it I was introduced to it by a college student who had access. And they were like, Oh, in the past you could only get on if you had a college email address. Right. But now they're allowing like businesses to have pages. And I was in the arts, and they were like, if you can access this, like you can tell everybody about like art shows or whatever. And I was like, Cool. So somewhere. Yeah, it launched February 4th, 2004. Okay. So it was probably like five, maybe 2006, probably before I was playing with it.
MeganOpen to the general public on September 26, 2005.
LesleyOkay. So there you go. And so then out of that business page, I eventually had like a personal profile, and my kids were two and four, probably. And I didn't post a ton, but they had like pictures from preschool or something like that. Because then you could connect with because impairment.
MeganRight.
LesleyAnd the AI piece wasn't there and that kind of thing. And we just weren't in the like cesspools of it. Yeah. It was sort of fun and naive.
MeganIt was kind of an online, just I mean, it was your online blog, really, right? Like your personal blog where you shared your posts, your pictures of your kiddos and what you did that day. And if you scroll back far enough in your stuff, like some of the shit you'd post, like statuses. Oh, you know, I I made a really shitty meatloaf or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
LesleyLeslie is a grocery store. Right. It was that kind of and it changed so much during that time. But in COVID times, I was like, oh, my kids didn't get to, we didn't talk about consent and photos because photos weren't being used that way. And I was like, well, they didn't get to consent to this. So I'm gonna like, I started pulling albums down and all of this stuff, you know. And it's is it gone forever? No, probably not. But at least like I don't have it out there anymore.
MeganIt feels more gone.
LesleyRight. And I'm just deleting all those fucking dumb status updates and the like whatever vampire game that I played that would like update your status all the time. It's like all this shit's going on. So just the like privacy part. Yeah.
MeganAnd we did not grow up that way.
LesleyYeah.
MeganLike I, you know, I'm thinking about like shit. I and part of that, part of that kind of sucks because I have very little memory sometimes of what, you know, all the concerts I went to, all the, you know, all Facebook does allow you to document that stuff. And so I could scroll back and be like, oh, I did go to that show. I did see Devo before. Yes. I did see, you know, and all these can see all the things we forgot. Yes, yes, yes. Like, oh shit, I now I remember that. But like I feel like there's a whole bunch of stuff before that that's missing. Right. And it's so then it's Which is not bad to say like that it's missing.
LesleyLike it's probably for the best. Like, arguably, that that kind of goes back to the value of like diaries or even when you had just sort of like personal blog that were like kind of private things, but it's become this whole like mining ground for certainly for our kids, and then you know, millennials where like your life's most embarrassing moments can just be like excavated and used as like shame and bullying fodder.
MeganNot only that, but like now anything if you apply for a job, you know damn well everybody's looking on your social media about all of your stuff, right? Like crazy to me.
LesleyYeah, but it's true. And you're gonna be held to, you know, this at 30 years old. Right. I mean, something that maybe when you were like 17, right? Yeah. And that's so gross, right? Right. So then it's like, you know, our kids were definitely the experiment generation with that. I hope we are like being more thoughtful about that. And you know, we can't the genie's out of the bag, bottle, ja bottle, she genies are in bottles, right?
MeganLamp, the lamp, yes.
LesleyThere's a word in there that is associated with genie.
MeganI mean genie was in a bottle.
LesleyYes, you know, and the genie and Aladdin's in the lamp. But the cat is in the bag, and when the cat gets out of the bag, the genie's in the bag. The genie has left the room. The horse is out of the bag. There we go. This is a real life example of ADHD. Right now, you are living it in our brains.
MeganWelcome to our minds. So do you, I mean I don't know if I have a summary thought. Did you have a diary? Did you keep a diary as a kid?
LesleyI did some, and I have some from even like my 20s. I I have kept them. I won't read them because they're cringy and it's hard. And I know that like I will review them as I get older because I want to make sure that my children could tolerate reading them. You know what I mean? But I also know that like the value of that kind of processing, first of all, for just us as individual human beings. And from a historical document perspective, like this is how, you know, it's probably easier to read your grandmother's diary than your mother's. Oh, for sure. Because there's a general a little bit of distance, but like that's how we understand our history. This is how, you know, like maybe my grandkids or great grandkids will be like, wow, great grandma was a nutback. Or that was cool, you know, she went and did those things or whatever. But I think that those things are really important. Yeah. Yeah. In that particular way.
MeganYep. Well, Gen X was the last generation that was, I guess, off the record, right?
LesleyAbsolutely. Fuck yeah. And we could like fuck up and everybody would just go, oh, and you would be at a party and get razzed for like 15 minutes and then it was over. Right. And you got up the next day.
MeganSomebody pants you somewhere and like, yeah. Right. It's embarrassing for a little while, but you, you know, you move through it.
LesleyBecause we're not meant to live in those feelings forever. And to constantly be reminded of them. Right. It is it's bullshit and it's cruel. Yeah. And I don't like it. No, I agree. Damn it. I agree. We talked about a lot of stuff. We did. Should we where should we go from here? Are we should we pause this part of our? I mean.
MeganWell, I think we need to probably we could discuss some some current events real quick when we come back. Let's take a break and we'll talk about that. And then yeah, that'll be that.
LesleyThis is like a three, we're taking two breaks. But we're only turning out one a month ish right now.
MeganWe've been gone for a minute. We've got lots of shit that all the wire.
LesleyI've got and yeah, life is just super busy. So maybe we'll do that.
MeganOkay.
LesleySo Jennings women are indeed sick of some shit. We are always sick of some shit, but some shit we're more sick of than other shit.
MeganSo I'm sick of the fact that, well, since we met last time, since we actually sat in a room together. No, it's been so long. Oh we're at war.
LesleyYes. But are we? I mean, not really. That war's done.
MeganIs it? Because it was done, but it's not quite done, but it might be wrapping up soon, but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure. Because the Strait of Vermouth is still closed. But wait, no, it's open. But you did hear that like Strait of Vermouth. I'm like, dude, believe me, I need to go have a straight vermouth like right.
LesleyGet a fucking map. I would like it on ice, please. And don't write your news stories with AI.
MeganJesus Christ. Well, he said it in person. Oh, in real life. It wasn't Trump. It was fuck who was it? I don't know. It was one of his lackeys, but his one of his lackeys got up and said, you know, blah, blah, blah. You know, the president's working on opening the Strait of Vermouth. And I'm like, is that a Freudian slip, my friend? Or do you just really not know what it's called?
LesleyI both. Yes. I was gonna say that's both, and I've got Vermouth on my mind, and I actually don't know the word or the location or geography. It's just bonkers.
MeganSo yeah, so now we're we're war with an excursion where he called it an excursion because he heard the word incursion but doesn't know what that word means. So he used excursion. We're on we are on an excursion. With some vermouth. With vermouth. Uh-huh. And then what was the other one that he said the other day? Oh, well, the whole Jesus fighting with the Pope thing that he's doing where he put a picture of himself out there as Jesus.
LesleyUnhinged.
MeganYeah. And then and was like, and I'm sure here's what I think happened too. I think his people, his people then said, We we need to claw that back there, Mr. President. You need to go out there and tell people that it's a doctored image. And he only heard part of that. And so when he got out there, oh I said interpretation, I'm a doctor in this image fucking picture.
LesleyIt was like the Red Cross. The Red Cross. Right? That was the thing. I swear to God, that had to be how it went down. It's so fine that you don't agree with your delusional family member. Like, yes, please don't agree with your you can go along to get along around the Thanksgiving table, but not if they're saying things to the whole world. You go, yeah, I don't know if that's quite right. You know, let's go. Let's go look that up on the internet, you know, or something. Like, let's go get an encyclopedia. Let's go read.
MeganLet's go double check that times or something. Yeah, no, it's a fucked up mess out there.
LesleyIt's in so unhinged. Yes. So, and we did an episode where it was like, wait, didn't this shit already happen in the 80s? Right. Was that like January, February? Yes. We've only done three. This is number four. And I can't remember. Sorry.
MeganBut we were just like talking about that. This like rinse, repeat. Yep. Now we're gonna go to war again with Iran. Well, we're gonna have a an excursion with Iran because we haven't done that before. Nope. Since the 70s. So we get to do that again. So that's fun. And now we're fighting with the Pope because he shouldn't talk about theology.
LesleyDon't have opinions about theology when you're the Pope. Because that's political or something.
MeganSouthside Chicago Pope.
LesleyDon't fuck with Southside Chicago Pope. Absolutely fucking not. And like no. It's the Pope. So what we're it's just like inconvenient now because you're not like blessing the king of America, whatever he wants to say. Like it's he's such a fucking narcissist that it it is taking the whole planet down with him to prove that he is wrong. Like for people to say no to him.
MeganRight. It is insane. Right. Like that. And there are still people who are saying yes to him. Which is I can't fathom how that's working. Like at some point we're going to, and I hope I'm wrong, we are going to have a problem with China. Like it's it's coming. Yeah. Like big time. Yes. And the they want to get their fucking oil from you know from Iran. And we are blocking the Strait of Vermouth. Right now. And yeah, we're we are going to have a big problem. And I'm, you know, starting to worry about all kinds of things, like the fact that that motherfucker has the football.
LesleyI mean, just like what read news from other countries, listen to radio stations outside of the United States.
MeganOh, yeah.
LesleyFollow independent journalism.
MeganI mean, if it wasn't for the Guardian, we would, I wouldn't know what the hell was going on. Truly. Truly. So it's it's great out there, guys. I really want everybody just to be kind to each other and be kind to yourself because we're only in our 50s, right?
LesleySo like this is just like rinse, repeat.
MeganAgain and again and again.
LesleyWith the same and it's and like, okay, everybody's got an agenda, right? Like all parties have an agenda. But the like the polarized, just sort of like relentless disgustingness of the destruction of every other being on the planet and the environment. So that we can accomplish whatever the goals are, which are pretty private financially oriented goals, right?
Megan100% making sense.
LesleyFor the top 1%, half of 1%.
MeganHe went on the news yesterday before the markets closed and said that the strait was open. Yes. And gas prices went down and the stock market went up. And then the markets closed, and Iran came out and said, No, it ain't. But the markets have already closed. So now we've got three days, two, you know, three and a half, two and a half days of of just market manipulation, and you're gonna open on Monday, and everything's gonna be in the shitter again.
LesleyRight. That's all that's happened in the past like six weeks. I mean, it's just like and then his same thing over and over.
MeganIt's like we wake up on Groundhog Day. Yes. Without Bill Murray.
Pulp Fiction Quotes And Culture War
LesleyIt's not funny. No. And you know what? Bill Murray grew. Grew a little bit. Did he? Every time he repeated that story on Groundhog Day. He did. He learned a little better every time he became a better person. We're not learning. Because we he did the same thing every day and he's finally like, you know what? I'm just gonna be nice because it feels better.
MeganHow do you feel? Just because we're on the this topic of uh now celebrities and this current world, how do you feel about Sam Jackson and the pulp fiction quote?
LesleyWhen I I was like, that's got to be bullshit. And I watched somebody had done a like side by side of it duo, side by side, yeah, yeah, all those things. And I was like, no way. And I knew that like in in pulp fiction, it was a paraphrase of a biblical, but that's what made it amazing, right? And this is totally Googleable, right, right, like right, and many of us grew up watching that movie religiously because it was amazing. And we're all the demographics smart enough to know.
MeganYeah.
LesleySo we quoted ourselves. It I'm but like the I didn't hear, but he sort of like bat wrote this backstory about why he was.
MeganYeah, he came out afterwards and said that he he was saying it because his he's heard it in the field.
LesleyI'm sure. I'm sure all the times you were in the field.
MeganYou fucking the one time you were in the field there, you white supremacist. Yeah, good times.
LesleySo there you go.
MeganLeslie, Megan. I hope that we all live to have one more podcast and we could do this again. I think so. I think we'll get another one.
LesleyI hope so. I think we'll get another one in there. I think you know, we're doing we're doing pretty well. This one's a little bit longer, and so we'll kind of maybe get another one towards the end of May. Yeah. Get a big project that's gonna wrap up, uh, but it's never gonna end. There's always other things coming. You got through a big project yourself, which is really cool.
MeganYep. And we're here to chat. And just more are coming because that's the way it happens. Yeah. If you would like to hear us chit-chat about anything specific, if there are any topics that are out there that you remember about your Gen X childhood that you would like to uh weigh in on, please drop us a note. We would love to dive into it. We've talked about a lot of stuff on this pod.
LesleyI'll probably get you thinking a little bit. We hope you enjoy it. And if you don't, that's okay. You don't have to listen. No, you don't. But it's nice that you do. It's totally fine. And you don't have to send us notes about how much you don't like it.
MeganYou could you can write us a note when you're getting your nails done, slide it across the table and say, we don't have to talk. We don't have to talk.
LesleyThat's totally fine. But you know, if you're if you're crabby, it's okay. Because we are too sometimes. Keep that to yourself. It's okay. All right.
MeganWell, go put on some warm clothes. I'm gonna I'm gonna go take a hot shower and then I'm gonna go stand in the rain tonight and watch a concert.
LesleyHave some have some coffee so you can stay awake.
MeganYes.
LesleyI might put a I might irish up that coffee a little bit. There you go. And uh kick's mask.
MeganHave a great time.
LesleyThanks, you too.
MeganI'll see you later. Okay, bye.
Where To Find Us And Leave Stories
LesleyBye. You have been listening to Gen X Women Are Sick of This Shit. Hey Megan. Hey, Leslie. What do people do if they want to find us?
MeganWell, we have a website that people can find us on, and that is GenXwomenpod.com. We also have a Facebook page. We have an Instagram account as well. We have a YouTube account where we put YouTube shorts and other little tidbits up there. We have a TikTok account.
LesleyI don't talk the tick.
MeganI you don't tick the talk. I barely talk the tick, but I did put a TikTok or explain. That's okay then.
LesleyThat's great. We need to know how to get that works.
MeganCan people buy merch? They absolutely can. We have a merch store on the website itself. And we also have an Etsy store too. So they're just pretty easy to find. It's just Gen X Women. Etsy.
LesleyAnd if you are listening to this podcast, presumably you found it somewhere. And while you're there, give us a review. Yeah. Let us know what you think. Throw some stars at us. That'd be great. Take one, two, three, four, or five. Ooh, five. Maybe.
MeganAnd and also make sure that you are hitting subscribe so that you're notified whenever a new episode drives. Most important. We also have a five minutes of fame that I think we should tell people about it too.
LesleyHell yes. We want to know your stories, your five minutes of fame stories. You can send those stories in on the website. Or you can call 1888 Gen X COD and leave your story for us, and we will play it live in our next episode.
MeganYep. We'll listen to it on a little red phone just like Batman. That'd be that phone. I think that's it. I think we're right.






