Nov. 8, 2025

GenX Slumber Party Movie Night: They Moved The Headstones, Karen, But Not The Goo Hole

GenX Slumber Party Movie Night: They Moved The Headstones, Karen, But Not The Goo Hole

Want to weigh in? Send us a text! TV static used to mean the world went quiet. We start there—two Gen X hosts trading dog stories and daylight saving brain fog—then pivot hard into Poltergeist, the 1982 suburban haunt that turned a living room ritual into a gateway for the uncanny. If you remember falling asleep to the national anthem and waking to snow on the screen, this breakdown will hit with a very specific chill. We dig into why Poltergeist still works: the time-capsule set design (Sta...

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TV static used to mean the world went quiet. We start there—two Gen X hosts trading dog stories and daylight saving brain fog—then pivot hard into Poltergeist, the 1982 suburban haunt that turned a living room ritual into a gateway for the uncanny. If you remember falling asleep to the national anthem and waking to snow on the screen, this breakdown will hit with a very specific chill.

We dig into why Poltergeist still works: the time-capsule set design (Star Wars cases, Speak & Spell, Alien posters), the sly social commentary hiding in a pool excavation, and the way the film never wastes a second arguing about belief. From the storm that swallows a tree to the rope-and-goo rescue that births a thousand parodies, the beats are tight, weird, and deeply human. We talk Spielberg’s fingerprints versus Tobe Hooper’s credit, ILM’s effects wizardry, and the infamous “they moved the headstones” twist that made cul-de-sacs feel like thin ground. Tangina’s entrance, the “They’re here” whisper, and the final motel TV toss get the love they deserve.

The conversation widens to the eerie production lore—the real skeletons, the so-called curse—and what the movie says about technology creep and American expansion. Along the way, we vent about SNAP cuts and why food is a human right, reflect on daylight saving fatigue, and share a Comic Con clown encounter neither of us needed. It’s nostalgia with teeth: equal parts critique, laughter, and heartfelt memory.

If you’re a horror fan, a Gen X kid, or just someone who loves a sharp cultural rewatch, you’ll find plenty to chew on. Hit play, then tell us: which 80s artifact still haunts you, and what movie should we tackle next? Subscribe, rate, and share to keep the conversation going.

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00:00 - Banter, Dogs, And Mood Check

06:35 - Heat Kicks On, Menopause Joke

09:16 - Why Poltergeist, Why Now

13:52 - Horror Preferences And Jump Scares

18:35 - Comic Con Clowns And Boundaries

21:30 - Sick Of This Shit: SNAP And Policy

29:40 - Daylight Saving Time Brain Fog

36:20 - Who Died This Week

44:20 - Sponsor: LYLAS Social Club

47:15 - Poltergeist Setup And Iconic Lines

53:40 - TV Static As Portal, Then Vs Now

59:10 - Spielberg, Hooper, And Production Drama

01:05:25 - 1982 Suburbia As Time Capsule

01:12:40 - Plot Turns: Tree, Storm, Goo Portal

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I'm Megan Bennett.

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I'm Lesley Meier

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And this is Gen X Women Are Sick of This Shit.

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Hello, Megan.

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Lesley.

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Oh my gosh, fancy meeting you here.

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How the hell did you get here?

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Wait, I'm in your house.

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Hi.

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How are you?

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Hi.

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I'm great.

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That's awesome.

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I'm good.

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I'm doing okay.

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Right now.

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Right.

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If you keep saying that, you're gonna get it's gonna get worse and worse.

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Well, I don't want to keep thinking about it.

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You know, I'm I'm okay.

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You know, come to think of it.

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Actually.

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Let's just stop right there.

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Kind of suck.

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But in the first five seconds of us answering that question, I was great.

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Yeah, don't think about it.

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Okay.

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I'm good now.

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It's good.

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How the hell are you?

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I am.

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I'm just gonna say I'm good.

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And I'm gonna leave it at that.

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How's your cute dog?

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She's really cute.

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She's sweet.

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She's my mental uh safety blanket.

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She's my whoopie.

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She's your whoopie.

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I should have named her whoopie.

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I keep thinking I should have named her noodle because I keep calling her noodle.

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And I'm like, that would have been a great dog's name.

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And I didn't do it.

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Noodle.

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It's not too late.

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She's only 10 months old.

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You could change it.

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Whatever she responds to.

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It could be her middle name.

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It's true.

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Noodle the doodle.

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Yeah, noodle the doodle.

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She's a cutie.

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Yeah, she's very she's she loves nothing more than just sitting on whatever sofa is in her closest proximity.

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And if you were on said sofa, her head is probably in your lap.

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It's very sweet.

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Oh I think that's very necessary for yes.

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I'm enjoying the fact that we've been sitting here talking about our plans for this for the past 45 minutes to an hour.

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And now is when the heat decides to come on in my house.

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So you're probably gonna hear some hot flashing.

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Some blowing.

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There's some wind in the background.

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Producer Tim will do his best.

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However, you can't get rid of all of it.

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You may hear a little bit of wind noise.

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It's yeah, it's just a hot flash.

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For the whole house.

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For the whole house.

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Everybody gets one.

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That's actually a pretty good lead into our conversation today.

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We I mean we're gonna do the other segments, but I'm just here for the juxtaposition.

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The hot flash for the whole house.

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Today we're gonna be talking about the movie poltergeist.

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And we're doing this because Leslie loves this movie.

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I do.

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And it it had come up in conversation, and we can talk about why that was.

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And and then we were just sort of at the end of our like Halloween weekend transitioning into November kind of thing.

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And I was like, okay, let's watch it.

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Because I feel like I probably watch it every, I don't know, five to eight years.

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But I I forget most things within five to eight seconds.

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So we popped it on the other night and I was like, holy fuck.

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I love it.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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So I'm excited to talk about that.

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I want to hear your your gushing and about this particular movie.

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It's it's just fascinating.

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This is deep shit people.

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I think I've seen it once all the way through.

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Okay.

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Really?

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Yeah, okay.

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Well, you were wrong with me, but a little bit older than me too, like when it came out.

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So I'm guessing it probably hit different.

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Maybe I don't know.

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Honestly, I'm not even sure I saw it when it came out.

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It might have been a more recent within the last 12 years.

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Oh, okay.

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Maybe right on.

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So that would make sense too.

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So but that also wasn't really my genre.

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Like I was more of a comedy kind of person, and I still am.

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Like I I had a conversation with a God, who was it?

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Shit.

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See, talk about not remembering things.

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Five to eight seconds.

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Five to eight seconds.

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And this was probably five to eight eight days ago.

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Okay, there you go.

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So we know it's gone.

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But somebody and I were having a conversation about horror movies.

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And I made the comment that I really don't like, oh, was somebody at work?

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I really don't like jump scares.

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Like I just I am not a jump scare person.

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I don't need that in my life.

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Like the I already have cortisol issues.

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I don't need that.

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Right.

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So pee your pants these days.

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Right, right.

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Like, and I, you know, there's only so many pairs of underwear in the drawer.

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Absolutely.

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So I didn't, so that's not my thing.

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There are horror movies and stuff that I can totally get behind because they're not jump scary.

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And I don't think Poltergeist is a jump scare kind of.

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It's got it's got a critical jump scare in it.

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Okay.

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But generally, no, that is not the premise of this movie.

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Okay.

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Because I mean the shining, there is a jump scare in that.

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Poly moly.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That one's a big one.

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So I can handle like one of those, but like if it's just for the sake of trying to get you to pee your pants, then it seems ridiculous and over the top to me.

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Yes.

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I don't need to do that.

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Like, why do that to my nervous system on purpose?

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Right.

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At this age.

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Right.

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Like the whole thing, we went, we went to New York City Comic Con.

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Oh fun.

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And it was, it was really cool.

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There were lots and lots of fun things to look at and comics to buy, and far too many people.

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And I come around the corner and they had this big set for it.

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Welcome to Dairy.

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Dairy?

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I'm like, oh, that's cool.

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Like it was a big house and people could walk through it and all this stuff.

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And you come around the side of it, and I look up, and there's this guy standing in the fake yard, and he's got that look on his like that big dumb smile, like that creepy ass smile.

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Yeah.

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And he was like looking up at you, like his head's down and he's looking up and he's got that big smile.

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It was awful.

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And I just looked at him and I went, Nope.

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And he turned around and walked away.

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My daughter's like, Where are you going?

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I'm like, nope.

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Well, I'm good here.

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Done.

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Gotta go.

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Yep.

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I'm glad you do.

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I'm sure he appreciated the fact that it did exactly what he wanted it to do.

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Right.

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Internally, he was like, Yeah, got her.

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Winning.

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Right.

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Sweet.

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Okay, so we're gonna talk about this movie in a little bit.

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As soon as we talk about other deadly things.

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Yay! Welcome back to this episode of Gen X Women Are Sick of This Shit.

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Scary shit.

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Sick of this scary shit.

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We are sick of this scary shit.

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Should we talk about the scary shit we're sick of?

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Oh God, there's so much.

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I'm not even sure where you start with that.

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Like shit, you're sick of.

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Okay.

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So currently super pissed about SNAP benefits and the government fucking with the whole, you know, I don't people's livelihood.

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Feeding people.

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Feeding people because somehow that's a bargaining chip.

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Food is a human right.

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You know, and the Democrats are in a really shitty position right now because they're fighting for health care for people so that their premiums don't go skyrocketing, which they in some cases will triple or quadruple for people.

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Absolutely.

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It has exactly fuck all to do with, you know, making sure that legals have healthcare.

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Because they don't get Medicare, they don't get Medicaid, like quit repeating that narrative.

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Anyway so they're in this shitty position, and I just don't think Republicans give a shit.

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And it's really, really gonna hurt people.

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Yep.

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And I'm not happy about it.

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Nope.

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And that, yep.

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So that shit we're really sick of.

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People deserve to be fed.

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They do.

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And these for the most part, somewhere in the neighborhood of 80 some percent of people who are on SNAP benefits already have a job.

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Some have two jobs, they are working their asses off, and SNAP benefits equal, ready for this, six dollars a day.

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So you can try to live on six dollars a day.

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And you, you know, good luck.

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Yeah.

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So the whole thing is making me incredibly angry.

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And I don't know, the, you know, nonprofits can't figure it, they can't make up the difference.

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Oh, heck no, we're talking about so much.

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Yeah.

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So, so much.

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I mean, communities, our community, yeah, your community, our nonprofits in our in Indianapolis are doing the best that they can, and neighbors are stepping up.

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Lots of people are stepping up, but that's only gonna be sustainable for so long.

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Right, right.

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That money will run out.

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And for every one meal that a nonprofit provides, Snap provides nine.

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So, like you can't make that up, right?

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Right?

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Like that's just impossible to make that up.

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Profound.

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So I think that's enough shit that we're sick of.

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This seems so stupid.

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Can I add one more thing that I'm sick of?

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Please.

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Just because I thought of it and it's a little lighter of a topic, uh-huh.

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But there's a pun in there because it's daylight saving time.

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Tell me about that.

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It's a lighter topic.

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Heart, heart, heart.

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Um is it like two o'clock in the morning right now?

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No.

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Does it feel like a I mean, so when we fall back it's 8 15 by by God.

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8 15 by golly, and it feels like it's like 11 30 at night.

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Oh yeah.

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Like it's all yes, my system's all messed up.

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When we so when we fall back, I feel normal again.

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Okay.

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I'm just like, okay, like I tend to save later, and it's even worse during daylight savings time, saving time.

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Which is hard to say.

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But I love the extra daytime.

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I guess like I'm I don't know, it's strongly linked to light dust, Arcadian rhythms.

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That's how it should work out.

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So even the first night, I was like, oh, cool.

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Like I'm staying up late, but it's like a normal time.

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Yeah, it's I'm I'm all messed up.

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I do, I mean, I like waking up and the sun is coming up for as long as we have that, right?

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Because that's gonna disappear really quickly.

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Yeah.

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But I like that, but there's something about it just getting dark at like 4 30, and you're like, Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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I do totally feel that.

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Absolutely.

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It just like all your energy is gone, like so fast.

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Yes.

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And I think part of it is that's my time when I start, like, I don't know, it takes me a really long time to wake up, I guess.

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Like everybody has different rhythms and stuff.

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I guess I'm just generally later in the afternoon kind of person.

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Heard makes sense.

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It's very short now.

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Yep.

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And I tend to like want to do things when it's daylight.

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And if I come home and it's dark for some reason my brain can't go.

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Oh, I'm not going anywhere.

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You can't do anything now.

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I can get up and fucking run the vacuum though, but like it's I have to make myself do it.

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Am I gonna run?

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Am I gonna run to the store?

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Probably not.

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Like it's very dark out there.

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I'll wait until the light comes back.

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Why would I do that in the dark times?

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Oh, it's dark out there.

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I mean scary.

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It's fairly biological, though.

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I think, you know, like yeah, whatever.

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On a very deep primal level.

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Fuckers, we're not supposed to be out after dark.

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No, we'll get eaten.

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That's right.

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There are tigers.

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Duh.

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Or bears or something.

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Yes.

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Dinosaurs, wolves, not coyotes, dinosaurs.

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There's never been dinosaurs and people.

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Woolly mammoths.

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No matter who says what, they never existed at the same time.

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But there were woolly mammoths and people at the same time.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Learned about that in Epcot.

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They thank goodness for Epcot.

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Okay, well, let's make a hard transition.

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Speaking of dinosaurs, who died this week?

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Old people?

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Yep, sure did.

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Which ones?

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You have a list.

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I have I have one.

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Well, we have a couple.

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We know that Dick Cheney died today.

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Oh, yeah.

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And we don't have to say anything more about that.

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I'm real broken up.

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We also know that today, or no, yesterday, we're recording today, but yesterday was November 3rd.

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Diane Ladd died.

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A mother of Laura Dern.

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Yep.

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And I just read that her cousin also, was she also in the First Wives Club or whatever, too?

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Like, didn't you have like weren't they?

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I don't know if she was in the First Wives Club.

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That's a great question.

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I mean Diane Keaton was in First Wives Club.

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Oh no, it wasn't.

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It was Seth Midler and Goldie Hahn.

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Yeah.

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Okay, okay.

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All right.

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But I also think uh Diane Keaton may have passed.

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She she did.

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We're getting there.

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She did.

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I got you.

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But she was related to uh Tennessee Williams.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Fascinating.

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Through marriage and blood relations.

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How about that?

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Tennessee Williams was the second cousin.

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Her first husband, Bruce Dern, Laura's father, was an Academy Award nominee.

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There were all these.

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And Laura and her mom achieved the rear feat of mother and daughter nominees for their work in Rambling Rose.

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But I being a younger, whatever, younger-ish person, became familiar with Diane Ladd watching Wild at Heart with Laura Durham.

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Yep.

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Which I really enjoyed.

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And that's when I found out who she was.

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I, you know, you mentioned Tennessee Williams and that relationship.

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And in my head, Tennessee Williams is so much older.

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And he is not, or was not.

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When was he?

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He died in 1983.

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No shit.

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No shit.

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I'm picturing him as like an 18.

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He died in the 1890s.

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Way back in a way older day.

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He was born in 1911 and died in 1983.

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I as a theater person, I am shocked.

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No, but I think that that like it's always in history.

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Right.

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We're not right.

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I mean, when you and I were in college, it would have been taught as part of theater history.

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Yeah.

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And we're gonna wear older.

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Right.

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And I would not have retained that he had died in IT because I was like 10 years old.

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So she passed away.

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And as producer Tim said, Diane Keaton also died on October 11th.

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And I just really enjoyed Diane Keaton.

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She was funny, she was quirky.

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I liked how she dressed.

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I didn't, I guess I, you know, this was sort of a shocker to me.

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Like I guess she just seemed so young.

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Yeah.

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I think she was what almost 80?

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79.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So you know in terms of like energy, how she is in movies, how she is in interviews, that kind of thing.

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Like you just think of her as a younger person.

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I think that's really fascinating.

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What is the age that like people remember us at being when we die?

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We'll have to ask in the future after we're dead.

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Future us.

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Yeah, somebody let us know.

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We'll be like, what did you think?

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So those were kind of like related.

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Easily 78.

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She he's like in, you know, him.

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She was like a thousand years.

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Methuselah.

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She was ain't so old.

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Because she bitched about daylight saving time.

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She Megan Bennett, she must have been 80 when she was on that podcast of hers.

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God damn old baby.

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Did you ever think about that?

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Like, okay, like probably we're not ever gonna take this down.

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Like, we'll just go see now and forget we ever did it.

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So will it just stay out there?

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And people it'll be like this weird record, and they'll be like, why were these people on a podcast?

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Maybe they'll put it on Voyager like 12 or something.

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That would be really significant.

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On a little gold record and send us out in this space.

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That would be so Gen X, right?

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Like, like, hey NASA, if you need a gold record of two old biddies bitching about shit and trying to remember what the hell was going on when they were kids, the aliens, we got a podcast for you.

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You'll be like, why were you making toys of us?

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We don't look like that.

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A little bobblehead.

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I know.

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Oh.

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Well, this might be a great time to like take a break.

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We should do that.

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And then we'll come back and I'll tell you all about this amazing film.

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I am looking forward to it.

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What's Lilas, Megan?

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Lilas is our uh off platform, off uh the Books of Faces, off all of the other traditional social media.

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Uh, it is our space and place for Gen X women to come together, have conversations, meet each other.

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In a safer space, right, than a traditional social media platform and a much more personal space.

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Trivia nights once a month.

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We have a live text chat.

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Four prizes, even.

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For prizes.

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That's true.

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Um we the space is able to host like weekly text chats so that you can kind of check in in real time with people.

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I would say the critical difference between kind of what this space is and any other social media space that I've experienced is that it is active.

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You will have to engage in it or be engaged in it by other people.

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So it's not like a passive consumption thing.

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It's like making connections.

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Yep.

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Welcome back.

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Oh, that was scary.

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Boo.

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You doing okay?

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I don't know.

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You're gonna scare me a little bit.

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I'm gonna be fine.

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I really fine.

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I'm a big girl.

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I can make this happen.

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I can I'm fine.

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I am a little a little scary.

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It's menopause, it's not my fault.

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I can't do anything about it.

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I can't help my scariness.

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Just what happens.

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It's fine.

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I'm a big girl.

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I can handle all of it.

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You can bring it.

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I believe in you.

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Okay.

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So we're gonna talk about poltergeist.

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What's the famous line from poltergeist?

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There.

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Like that.

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Excellent work.

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Thank you very much.

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I've been studying.

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Good job.

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It's like you're an actress.

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Actressa.

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Actressa.

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So you said you did not see poltergeist as a young person.

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Correct.

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You saw it as a less young person.

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Now, I was also thinking, have I seen it all the way through?

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Ah, valid question.

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And I am not, I can't confirm or deny that.

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Heard.

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Okay.

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I am 78.2% sure I've seen like the shining all the way through.

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Oh, okay.

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But I'm see, it's still a little whooshy.

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I'm not sure.

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Right.

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You know?

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Oh, that's some pretty fucking scientific accurate.

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You like that?

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Like I pulled that completely out of my ass.

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I think that because that sounds scientifically accurate, I will cite it in a really important study.

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And say that it's the truth.

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Yes.

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Because that's the world that we live in right now.

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My opinion is somehow fact.

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It it well, yes, or something.

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My golly, especially when you say 78.2%.

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I know it sounds it sounds like it's totally chat GPT, which we all know is 100% true.

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It it tells us nothing but the truth all the time.

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Uh-huh.

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It loves you.

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Please.

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We would do much better to have a fucking encyclopedia in our house again.

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Do you remember those days?

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Yes.

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I remember those days.

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I loved encyclopedias.

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It took longer for us to figure stuff out, but that's okay.

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It is okay.

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Like it's okay to go to the library and look something up.

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Yes.

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And to not have it instantly, you retain things.

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Yeah.

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It's weird though, isn't it strange?

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Like how because we've had the internet for so much of our life that it is sort of hard.

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Like I feel like I'm losing that grip on what it was like to not have it.

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Sure.

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You know, I mean, we remember it.

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Yes.

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Sort of, but it feels like it's slipping away.

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Like it's, I don't know.

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Like if you were interested in something, you would just kind of have to like maybe do some reading and and then go, okay.

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So I think I have a thesis.

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Let me go to the library and use some of the databases, and then like go through the card catalog and maybe talk with a writing coach and like workshop my concept.

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Yeah.

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Find some resources, make sure that it will be valid.

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Right.

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No.

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And like that's all gone.

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Pull together my own ideas, write them with my own words.

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On a piece of paper with a ballpoint pen.

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Yeah.

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I a paper mate.

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Vital skill.

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The fact that we aren't writing is also making us dumber.

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Yeah.

00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:28.880
That we're not writing with our hand, our hands, literally, because our that's how we process that.

00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:30.799
We could really go down this rabbit hole.

00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:31.359
Oh, I know.

00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:32.240
But guess what, folks?

00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:34.559
We should probably talk about this in the future at some other point.

00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:35.519
Absolutely.

00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:45.920
That whole switching from Yeah, from like living in a non-digital world to a fully and completely immersive digital world.

00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:46.559
Yeah.

00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:47.119
I agree.

00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:47.599
That's cool.

00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:48.240
That'd be fun.

00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:48.720
All right.

00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:55.599
Talk to me now about poltergeist and why you like it so much.

00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:58.319
Well, let me tell you, Megan.

00:22:58.640 --> 00:22:58.799
Okay.

00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:07.759
This came up last week because we were sitting at one of our locals having a delicious tiki drink.

00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:11.200
And it's spooky season.

00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.359
So we were talking about scary movies.

00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:22.799
And the age range of folks that we were talking to, they're like probably mid-30s, mid to late 30s into 20s.

00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:23.039
Okay.

00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:24.480
So we were just chatting about it.

00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:28.559
And I just think Poltergeist is an epic, spooky movie.

00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:31.200
It's just really iconic, all these things.

00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:38.240
And I think only one out of seven will say that had seen it.

00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:38.799
Wow.

00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:41.599
And only a couple of them had heard of it.

00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:42.240
Oh.

00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:46.319
So wow, that's even I mean, like I could see not seeing it.

00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:46.720
Absolutely.

00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:50.559
Because it's not like something that's on rotation all the time on TV or whatever.

00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:53.440
And also, who watches TV anymore?

00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:53.920
Right.

00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.400
So you have to stream it with purpose.

00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:03.519
Yes, you would have to go find it or find it in like carousel of like spooky movies that's been curated on Netflix or something like that.

00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:08.480
Or you had parents who cared enough to educate you properly and show you said movie.

00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:09.680
Sit down, children.

00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:14.160
We're going to watch this little girl sit in front of a television for 12 hours.

00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:15.200
Exactly.

00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:15.519
Yeah.

00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:17.440
And that was the conversation.

00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:17.839
Okay.

00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:23.680
Because the premise of the movie, if it were made today, would not work.

00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:34.000
Because the only reason that Caroline becomes possessed and the way that the poltergeist gets access to the house is through the television.

00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:36.160
Do you remember what was different?

00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.200
First of all, we had fucking just television and not cable.

00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:41.680
But what else was different about TV when we were kids?

00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:44.720
TV ended at like 11 o'clock or whatever.

00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:46.960
You had the national anthem flag.

00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:47.279
Yeah.

00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:48.240
You know, whatever.

00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:49.359
And then you had fuzz.

00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:50.240
Yep.

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And the static would be on.

00:24:52.000 --> 00:25:03.039
And you know, your dad would be passed out in the armchair, or your mom or your grandma, or whoever was passed out in the armchair with their Miller light in their hand.

00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.359
Maybe I'm speaking from experience.

00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:06.640
I don't know.

00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:08.960
But the static would be on.

00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:09.359
Yeah.

00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:10.000
Like that.

00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:10.240
Yeah.

00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:11.759
Producer Tim was reenacted.

00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:13.759
Soothing, soothing static.

00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:18.559
And that's how the ghosts fucking got in through static.

00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:19.680
Through static.

00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:28.480
And there's a theory that's put forth that's like, because the channel's not picking up signal, it's able to receive signals of another kind.

00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:29.200
Oh.

00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:33.279
So this is much deeper than I anticipated it was going to be.

00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:40.240
I mean, we could really go into the very accepted parapsychology of all of this, highly researched.

00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.720
However, so that's how the conversation came up.

00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:43.039
Okay.

00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:48.720
And it was just like, okay, first of all, you you wouldn't the movie wouldn't work in the same particular way.

00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:50.799
It was such an innocuous thing.

00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:53.839
Just like the TV's on in the living room, of course it goes off.

00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:54.880
Everybody would know that.

00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:56.720
There would be no cultural weirdness.

00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:59.119
You wouldn't have to sit there and explain it absolutely.

00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:04.640
So like any of these 20 or 30 year olds, that is completely foreign to them.

00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:07.920
24-7 media, 24-7 entertainment.

00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:09.279
There's never a break.

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Like ever.

00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:11.599
No.

00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:16.079
So just imagine there's like do any channels go off anymore?

00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:18.480
I don't have network television.

00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:19.920
So I don't know.

00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:25.359
So I have YouTube TV, which I guess is just like, you know, whatever.

00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:30.960
But who I'm also pissed at right now because they're in a fight with ABC and General Hospital.

00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.279
They erased all my fucking general hospitals.

00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:37.200
This is why we need to keep our fucking VHS tapes, people.

00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:41.279
I had two weeks of unwatched general hospitals and they erased them.

00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:42.559
And do you think I can find them?

00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:43.680
No, I cannot.

00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:44.880
Fuck those people.

00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:45.680
I'm so mad.

00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:46.880
Keep your media.

00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:48.000
Keep your media.

00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:51.440
Anyway, not not related to this or anything, right?

00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:52.720
Like not related to Poltergeists.

00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:56.559
Network, network television is also 24 hours now.

00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:57.920
Oh Jesus.

00:26:58.240 --> 00:26:59.519
So there's no silence.

00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:03.759
I mean, I guess it's like, and they're probably, you know, it's all infomercials.

00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.279
It's it's yeah.

00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:10.319
I mean, it's look at the ball bearings in this dildo.

00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:11.759
You know, like it's shit like this.

00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.480
Is that how it they sell on network television after the dark?

00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:16.480
Last time I watched it, yeah.

00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:19.759
Look at the ball bearings and this dildo.

00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:20.559
This dildo.

00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:20.799
I am.

00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:23.279
I'm staying up later tonight.

00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.960
Says the man who doesn't obviously have a dildo.

00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:29.039
No, I'm I mean, I'm just saying.

00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:31.279
But if he's shopping, he knows where to find one.

00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:32.000
He does.

00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:32.960
Channel six.

00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:35.440
In in late night.

00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:41.920
In the uh in the in the early 2000s, there was an older woman who came on.

00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:42.400
What?

00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:43.839
This is true.

00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:44.400
Okay.

00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:45.839
I'm sorry.

00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.839
There's like a record scratch.

00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:51.200
We're gonna interrupt this program, friends.

00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.799
Tell us your story about dildos.

00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:55.440
Okay.

00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.519
But keep it quick because we still gotta find a sense of it.

00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:00.640
No, no, no, I know.

00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:06.400
Okay, so in the early 2000s, I was uh in a relationship that that person worked at a bar.

00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:12.960
So our hours of existing in the world were shifted to the later and bar hours.

00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:14.400
Yeah, bar hours.

00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:22.880
So I would watch TV to wind down from social interactions, and it was late night.

00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:23.920
That's what he called it.

00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:25.599
And that's what wound you up.

00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:27.440
Social interactions.

00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:36.640
Anyway, so there was like one in like this is how I know network television just goes to infomercials.

00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:41.039
They sell those hours to whoever is willing to pay for it.

00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:42.079
Highest bidder.

00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:42.559
Right.

00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:49.519
And there was an elderly woman who spoke very frankly.

00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:50.880
Oh, this was not Dr.

00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:51.599
Sue, though.

00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:52.240
No, Dr.

00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:52.480
Sue.

00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:53.359
Dr.

00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:54.799
This is not Dr.

00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:55.039
Ruth.

00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:55.599
Dr.

00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:55.920
Ruth.

00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:56.160
Okay.

00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:57.119
It's a Dr.

00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:59.119
Ruth like I shit you not.

00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:10.880
This woman looked like she could easily be both either an aloof professor of a community college and both and live in a mobile home park somewhere.

00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:11.440
Okay.

00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:13.039
And she's awesome.

00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:13.440
Yeah.

00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:17.119
So she would have guests on and they would talk about these products.

00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:29.200
And like, I will never forget this one because not only did it have ball bearings in the middle of it, she turned it on and it would like move.

00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:34.079
And it was like was it, was it yeah?

00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:35.680
Yeah.

00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:36.640
That's amazing.

00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:38.880
It would oscillate like a tentacle a little bit.

00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:42.079
Okay, so there's a reason for that, but I'm not gonna get into that right now.

00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:42.960
No, that's fine.

00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.400
All of the women who are listening to this, they know why.

00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:48.400
Like I don't have to explain it to them.

00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.759
Okay, they get they know why it's undulating.

00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:52.480
Yes.

00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:57.759
I just did the longest Google search ever in the whole history of the world on my phone.

00:29:58.079 --> 00:29:58.640
Did you find it?

00:29:58.799 --> 00:29:59.839
And of course, and I remember.

00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:04.079
Remember this because we've had this conversation and I've done this Google search before.

00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:14.000
It's Sue Johansen, a Canadian sex educator who gained popularity through late night television shows, including reruns on American networks like the Oxygen Network.

00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:18.319
While she was Canadian, oh, while she was Canadian.

00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.200
I was like, did she become not Canadian later on?

00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:22.480
Help me understand.

00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:30.079
Her shows were widely seen in the US, and a US version of her show, Talk Sex with Sue Johansen, aired in the late 2000s.

00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:34.960
Yes, that was a fine burger.

00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:45.200
She was a registered nurse who became a sex educator and was known for her frank, no-nonsense approach to sex education on her shows, like Sunday Night Sex Show.

00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:47.759
So here's here's what I think is great.

00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:52.720
This makes me very happy that Tim absorbed that information.

00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:53.519
He did.

00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.720
That he was not just a typical dude.

00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:00.319
He wasn't just watching it and like it went in one ear and out the other.

00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:00.720
Right.

00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:02.640
He learned something.

00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:03.279
He did.

00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:04.960
He knows about ball bearings.

00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:08.240
He does and how important they are in the dildo industry.

00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:09.839
In in dildos.

00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:10.240
Yes.

00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:11.359
Bravo, Tim.

00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:12.000
Well done.

00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:12.480
Bravo.

00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:21.440
I mean, at least you know that women had a place where they could use a dildo, which I would say is probably a step up from some, yes.

00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:22.799
From absolutely, yeah.

00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.720
Who don't even know where the baby comes from.

00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:28.559
It's from the pee-pee hole.

00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:30.559
Oh Lord.

00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:32.160
Okay, back to poultry.

00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.880
We're gonna put the needle back on the record.

00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.079
Maybe that's an after hours clip.

00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:38.880
We don't know.

00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.359
Oh no, that soccer needs still to be left in.

00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:53.680
Let's return to 1982, which is both the release year for the film and the year that the film is set in, which is meta.

00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:55.440
Ironic, not ironic.

00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:56.240
Super meta.

00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:56.640
Yeah.

00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:03.519
Well, and my understanding is like there actually is quite a bit of kind of political and social commentary in the film.

00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:07.839
So it being sent in the set in the present moment is on purpose.

00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:08.559
Here now.

00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:18.400
In 1982, suburban America met the supernatural through a flickering TV screen and a I would say soon to be missing little girl.

00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:26.400
Poltergeist was not just another haunted house story, it was a mirror reflecting the dreams, fears, and contradictions of the 1980s.

00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:26.880
Okay.

00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:28.240
There we go.

00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:37.279
So the premise of this movie is that there's some crazy shit going on in this house.

00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:37.839
Okay.

00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:52.319
And the little girl, just being a small child who's a listener and a noticer, and she's really sensitive and attuned and emotional, is easy to communicate with through the static on the TV.

00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:56.160
So the spooky ghost people or things, right?

00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:56.480
Yes.

00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:05.119
Are talking to her while she's watching not a later commercial, not Sue Johansson, but just fuzz.

00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:05.680
Yeah.

00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:13.839
Like the one of the opening shots that just sort of sets the premise for the whole movie is like it's it's storming.

00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.519
Oh gosh, there's so much I want to say.

00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.839
It's storming, they're trying to get the kids to bed, they're trying to get the kids to bed, the kids, you know, whatever.

00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.160
And so everybody ends up in the family bed, right?

00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.480
There because they can't get the kids to stay in bed.

00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.000
It's terrible outside.

00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:37.440
And the static is on on the TV, and it the little girl like kind of sits up and she's sort of listening, and then she crawls down to the end of the bed and she sits down and she's just sitting there staring at the TV.

00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:41.759
And she says, Yes, yes, you know, okay.

00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.839
She's like, I hear you, you know, whatever.

00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:47.920
She says these tiny little words, and then we move on from there.

00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:54.319
So it like sets the premise right away, which I find just ever so terrifying.

00:33:54.319 --> 00:34:11.599
So Poltergeist was produced by Steven Spielberg and directed by Toby Hooper and uh written by Steven Spielberg, Michael Grass, AIS, and Mark Victor from a story by Spielberg himself.

00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:12.159
Okay.

00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:22.320
And the stars in the film, I I was familiar with these people just because they were actors of our era, but Beth Williams, who's a total fucking hottie in it, and then Craig T.

00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:22.960
Nelson.

00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:23.760
Coach.

00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:25.360
Coach, there we go.

00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:26.079
Okay.

00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:29.360
So they're like the adults that are in the movie.

00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:35.280
And just in reading about it, I had no idea there was any like controversy behind the scenes.

00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:40.159
But evidently Steven Spielberg was directing E.T.

00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:41.360
at the same time.

00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:41.760
Okay.

00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:44.239
Kind of, or like there was some proximity there.

00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:48.800
And so he was contractually bound to not direct anything else.

00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:51.360
But this was like kind of his baby.

00:34:51.360 --> 00:35:07.679
So there are all these stories, like if you go look on Reddit or do just like a quick Google search, or there's like just fan sites and that kind of thing, where, yeah, I mean, Toby, poor guy whose name is already gone 5.5 to 8 seconds already out of my brain.

00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.960
Toby Hooper was like director in name only.

00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:11.119
Okay.

00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:14.960
But then there are different accounts based on the different actors or people who worked on the set.

00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.119
They're like, no, he was the one doing all the blocking.

00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:18.480
He was placing all the actors.

00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:20.000
Like it was a collaboration.

00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:26.320
Steven Spielberger was meeting with him after work and saying, you need to redo this shit because it's not worse than that.

00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.679
He was actually on set like five to six days a week.

00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:32.000
So he was very hands-on.

00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:36.000
And it's sort of like, could you really not let him direct?

00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:36.800
You know what I mean?

00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.480
Like that his ego was all over it.

00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:39.920
He was the producer of all these things.

00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.639
And so maybe, I mean, maybe Toby knew going into it, right?

00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:46.480
Like he was saying, I don't know.

00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.280
I I imagine the egos of the time.

00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:53.280
It was sort of like, you're gonna get to do this movie.

00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:54.000
Right.

00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:58.079
But it's Steven's movie, you know, like not by everybody else in the corner.

00:35:58.079 --> 00:35:59.199
It's Steven's movie.

00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:00.639
Regardless, some of the.

00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:04.880
But if it's a hit, then maybe this guy gets more jobs, right?

00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:07.519
Like but this controversy has gone on for a long time.

00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.920
It's come up even in like modern day.

00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:13.280
There was, I'm I'm not writing anything down.

00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.760
This is not a research-based podcast at all.

00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:21.760
But some of the stuff I was reading is like this came up much later, like a decade or two after the movie was out.

00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:26.800
And Steven Spielberg was kind of dissing him and just like throwing shit, and some money was involved.

00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.199
And he was like, I really directed it.

00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.280
And or I was on set every day.

00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:35.119
There were things that implied that he hadn't done a lot, and so it wasn't great.

00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:37.599
And actors have different accounts and all this stuff.

00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.159
Regardless, the movie happened.

00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:44.719
It was Spielberg's story, and it became like a total fucking classic.

00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:59.039
Yeah, I feel like this one is along the same lines as The Shining and Rosemary's Baby, and you know, Exorcist and kind of like of that same heft.

00:36:59.360 --> 00:36:59.599
Yes.

00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:01.280
Like, absolutely.

00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:23.920
And this why when we what rewatched it the other night, I guess the reason it stuck out and I wanted to talk about it, I was like, okay, like if you watched a movie about Gen X right now, like let's say, well, I mean, even just watching Stranger Things, like there are the set is dressed to kind of look Gen X, but this is literally like a day in the life.

00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:29.039
It's like a house, it is 1982, it is everything that we grew up with.

00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:35.119
I mean, we were just looking at like the children's bedroom and all of the things that were lined up in the windows.

00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:35.360
Yeah.

00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.440
And it was unbelievable.

00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:46.800
Well, it's funny because you, you and I talked about that before we started recording, and I did pull it up and it like to look in the in the bedroom.

00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:55.199
And there's the star, the Darth Vader collector's case where you had all of the different Star Wars figures in there, speak and spell, amazing.

00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:56.239
I love that thing.

00:37:56.239 --> 00:38:04.559
The Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, like little action sets, and Sky Fighter and an A, like a the poster for Alien the movie.

00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:06.960
A there was some cross promotion, right?

00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.119
Yes.

00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:09.519
Yeah.

00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:10.480
So it's interesting.

00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:15.039
Like you got Steven Spielberg with all of the Star Wars stuff.

00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:15.360
Right.

00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.360
Like putting all of George Lucas's stuff.

00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:17.760
Sure.

00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:20.800
It would have absolutely been culturally relevant.

00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:25.199
But but also it's my best friend, and I'm kind of working on this movie too.

00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:26.239
And yeah, all that.

00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:27.440
So absolutely.

00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:32.960
Well, and you found like in the corner, like in one of the shelves, there was like a pillow.

00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:33.760
Oh yeah.

00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:35.760
Like Jeffrey from Toys R Us.

00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:36.000
Yeah.

00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:37.119
Like a pillow, Jeffrey.

00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.079
Was like in that scene, and I was like, no way.

00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:41.039
Oh my gosh.

00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:41.440
Yeah.

00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.719
But it is just like that is childhood.

00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:46.639
You know, I was born in 73.

00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:52.960
So I was like nine, almost 10 when this came out, and my brother certainly had all of these things.

00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:55.760
There's a Mylar balloon that's floating around.

00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:57.679
There's this creepy, creepy clown.

00:38:57.840 --> 00:38:58.320
Yeah.

00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.559
Uh you know, there's a creepy clown.

00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.320
Does that have a I again I've only seen this once.

00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:11.519
Does the clown have a well when you said this movie probably doesn't have jump scares, the clown is the single jump scare.

00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:13.199
And it is the worst.

00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.760
And I have to say on principle, who the fuck bought that clown?

00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:17.039
No child wants that clown.

00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:18.320
Nobody wants that clown.

00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.199
That was there just for it to be terrifying.

00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.480
Yeah, if you see a clown in a movie, it's probably not gonna go well.

00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:25.920
Nope, absolutely not.

00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:28.000
Stay away from that movie and that clown.

00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:32.400
Unless it shakes the clown, which is, you know, that's a deep cut, by the way.

00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.639
I believe Bobcat Goldthwaite.

00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:35.519
Is that right?

00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.519
Tim's nodding at me, so I think that's right.

00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:38.320
But yeah.

00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:39.519
That one's funny.

00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:39.920
Oh my gosh.

00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.800
So early 80s, Reagan's president.

00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:43.199
Okay.

00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.599
MTV is just launched.

00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:46.320
Sure.

00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:51.440
And this, you know, families had much more technology.

00:39:51.440 --> 00:40:01.039
And this family is sort of a like middle class, I think is what they would be described as the freelanks family.

00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:04.719
They've got like some three-bedroom home.

00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.519
You know, it's it's really average.

00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:11.760
What stood out to me when I was walking, watching the house is like, this is a nicer home.

00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:12.480
Oh yeah.

00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:14.320
Rest in PCM TV, it is done.

00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:15.199
Yeah, that's right.

00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.280
Saying that the beginning and the end.

00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:18.400
It's a nice home.

00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:19.679
Like they're doing well.

00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:25.519
We find out quickly that they're gonna have a pool put in the backyard, all of these things.

00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:29.679
So they're like, they can afford a fucking pool, but they're not super rich.

00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:29.920
Yeah.

00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:33.920
I mean, this is there's some manicured lawns, but like there's no extra.

00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:34.320
Right.

00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:34.719
Right?

00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.400
This is their house, it's not a lifestyle.

00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:41.920
It's just a regular so we're not styling things like we do on social media these days.

00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.440
It's kind of like the the house from ET, too, right?

00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:48.000
Like just sort of it's just a functional fucking house.

00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:51.039
Just yeah, just like your regular middle class 80s.

00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:52.159
Absolutely.

00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.599
Nobody's freaking out about anything.

00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:57.599
It's like it's not a McMansion.

00:40:57.599 --> 00:40:58.800
Absolutely not.

00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:03.039
So they are just like happily plunking along.

00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:13.599
So there was like this commentary in the movie about technology creep into like every corner of life, families gathering around the television.

00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:15.920
Let me just hit this microphone.

00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:18.480
And it was just a normal house, right?

00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:22.079
Like there wasn't like anything gothic, there wasn't a haunted house that was happening.

00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.840
It's just the house next door.

00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:24.559
Yeah.

00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:28.880
So really quickly, like Amityville horror was a house, right?

00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:33.599
Like that was there was obviously something incredibly creepy about that house.

00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:34.320
Yes.

00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:37.679
And they went there on purpose, right?

00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:41.679
And it's like yeah, maybe rethink that.

00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.199
Why did you go there?

00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:47.599
Yeah, it's pretty wild.

00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.400
So the the premise of the movie starts like right away.

00:41:52.400 --> 00:42:01.679
And what I love so much about it is that no one in the film, none of the actors, it is not, it is never questioned.

00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:08.639
Like the movie goes so fast, all of the characters, everybody buys in immediately.

00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:11.039
It's just absolutely accepted.

00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:23.119
Well, we should get there, but they're able to find the experts that they're able to find without question on a university campus to help them figure out what the fuck is going on in their house that seems to be like a gate to hell.

00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:26.559
To be fair, that happens a lot because in Ghostbusters, right?

00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:29.199
Like it was pretty easy to find Zankman.

00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:30.320
Yes.

00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.639
He was just kind of milling around.

00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.880
So because it was it's a fucking scary movie.

00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:37.920
There are tons of effects.

00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:38.960
They were really cutting edge.

00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:41.920
Industrial Light and Magic did the groundbreaking special effects.

00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:51.760
There were portals, flying toys, which is one of my favorite fucking scenes after the bedroom of the children as well, and haunted by the poltergeist.

00:42:51.760 --> 00:43:00.480
You can like open the door and you can see the special effects, but like a compass, okay, right?

00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:02.639
Okay, with the little needle on the end.

00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:02.800
Oh.

00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:04.559
It's like a record needle.

00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.360
So it like meets a record and it flies around a room.

00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:12.320
There's a jack in a box, like all these toys are flying around and coming up to the people's faces when they're in the door.

00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:15.599
So this sounds terrifying.

00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.599
It was really, really cool.

00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:18.639
It was amazing.

00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:24.960
So the family was Diane, Steve, Carol Ann, Robbie, and Dana.

00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:26.000
The feelings.

00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:30.000
Dana is 16, Robbie's eight, and Carol Anne is like five, I think.

00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:36.159
And we were doing the math because it comes out that, like my God, five seconds.

00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:37.760
I'm glad I have fucking things written down.

00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:38.480
Three to five.

00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.320
Diane is 32.

00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:40.639
Okay.

00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:43.840
And so I was like laying in bed the other night, and I'm like, oh, okay.

00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:49.519
So that means she got pregnant when she was like 15 or 16 years old because her oldest is 16 years old.

00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:52.400
And you know, they probably like finished high school.

00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:53.679
He went off and got a job.

00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:54.960
He's selling real estate.

00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:56.000
Like they're fine.

00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:56.400
Right.

00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.719
And there's just no big thing about it.

00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:00.239
Completely unrealistic.

00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:01.119
It's all good.

00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:03.920
But maybe I mean maybe in the 80s, maybe.

00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:06.480
So 82, they're in their 30s.

00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:12.480
So that means they were born in the like 50, 60 to 70, 80.

00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:14.079
No, they were born in 50.

00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:14.719
Yeah.

00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:16.559
So yeah.

00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:17.119
Yeah.

00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:19.760
So their parents were so they were baby boomers that, yeah.

00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:28.559
Yeah, they are boomers, but they're kind of like hip or boomers, at least in the I mean, all the boomers were at some point younger.

00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:29.760
That's true.

00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.159
I guess we were all hip at at some point.

00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.320
Everybody was hip at one time.

00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:38.400
So the Freelings home is the American dream.

00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:42.880
Safe, suburban, new, but their house is built on something buried.

00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:43.519
Okay.

00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.000
It is so could I ask a question?

00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:46.400
Please.

00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.119
Because I'm remembering a little bit about this movie.

00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:49.679
Yes, yes.

00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:50.639
Yes, not much.

00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:56.559
Was there a there's a super scary dude, like skeleton-y looking dude?

00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.039
Yeah, like so many skeletons.

00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:00.719
Is he a preacher?

00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:02.559
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:03.039
Okay.

00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:07.280
So there was also there's poltergeist, poltergeist two, and then there was a poltergeist three.

00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:08.079
Oh, god help me.

00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:12.320
Poltergeist II, you do see more of the preacher, but it does extend the story.

00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.039
So there are tons of fucking skeletons.

00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:15.360
Okay.

00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:26.000
Because if you have not seen this movie, fucking spoiler alert, the whole housing edition in Mesa Verde or Costa Verde, California, was built on a cemetery.

00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.719
And so an ancient Indian burial ground, right?

00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:30.000
I mean-ish.

00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:36.239
They kind of say that, but they are like it's it's like an old pilgrim cemetery.

00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:38.719
Like those are the kind of characters that you sort of find out.

00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:40.079
You can't do that.

00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:41.599
You you you just can't do that.

00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:45.599
No, you need to move the bodies if you're going to do that.

00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:46.639
That has been done.

00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:51.679
I mean, cemeteries have been relocated in the name of progress.

00:45:51.679 --> 00:46:10.559
But in this case, they just moved the headstones, which left me slightly incredulous because really, like, you kind of have to dig down and like put plumbing and I mean, if I want to bring some reality into this totally made up movie, I was like, well, at some point somebody would have absolutely.

00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:13.599
And the other thing is they had dug that pool all the way down.

00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:17.039
I mean, it was like 10 feet down and had not run into anything yet.

00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:26.480
So unless the pilgrims were super industrious and burying people 20 feet down, I mean, at some point somebody probably would have noticed.

00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:31.920
However, for the premise of this film, we're going to accept it as truth.

00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:35.119
And all of those spirits were really fucking pissed off.

00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:41.119
And so basically the TV is like an access point into the home because you know what they want to do, Megan?

00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:42.159
They just want to nap.

00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:44.880
They just want to go, they just want to go to the light.

00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:45.440
Okay.

00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:46.400
But you can't.

00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:47.119
They're stuck.

00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:48.480
Well, wait a minute.

00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:53.920
Wouldn't they have had a long time after they like died in the world?

00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:55.599
That's where the second movie comes in.

00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:57.679
Yes.

00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.400
They had a long time to like move on to the light, right?

00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:01.920
Before somebody built a house on them.

00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:19.599
So if I'm remembering correctly, and I'm probably not, like, I remember watching the second movie and this creepy old dude is like very and I think what the premise is is that he was like leading them across the country or something.

00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.559
We're gonna talk in the way the way backs.

00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:23.840
Okay, in the Oregon Trail.

00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:25.760
Seven in the Oregon Trail.

00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.159
And so like it was kind of like a religious group cult.

00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.000
They got to miss wherever it was and died of dysentery.

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.360
And he totally, and he just didn't want to let their spirits go.

00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:43.199
There was some sort of like access to power, like he wanted to keep them all trapped there.

00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:44.079
Whatever.

00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:49.840
I feel better about poltergeist now rather than rather than the second one.

00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:51.920
Because the creepy old dude like really creeps me out.

00:47:52.000 --> 00:48:03.840
So he is not in the first one, not as a fully developed character, but there is a scene where it hints at the shapes of these people, and there is a character with like a wide-brimmed hat.

00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:04.239
Okay.

00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.519
And if you've seen them both, you're kind of like, okay.

00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:17.679
But I mean, the consequence is because we don't have the real creepy old guy, the family just gets attacked by like skeletons popping out of the ground towards the end.

00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:18.719
So, okay.

00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:20.719
So you're digging the ask me questions.

00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:21.039
Yes.

00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:22.480
Tell me all yes, yes.

00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:24.719
You mentioned the little girl goes missing.

00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:26.159
The little girl goes missing.

00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:27.039
So where is she?

00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:28.960
Okay, so this is you know, big deal.

00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.440
The the prep the opening of the movie.

00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:35.280
I just want to say I'm sorry for all the people who've never seen this movie or or not.

00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:36.559
Like maybe you're coming along.

00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:38.320
And you're just like with me.

00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:39.920
This is the best.

00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:41.039
Thanks.

00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:44.559
So they kind of they lay it out early on, right?

00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:53.199
It's this beautiful idyllic home, but immediately something is wrong because little Carolyn has a canary and named Tweety.

00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:54.480
Oh, oh, yeah.

00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:55.440
You know, Tweety.

00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.719
And sadly, Tweety is dead.

00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:00.880
First thing canary in the coal mine.

00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:02.239
Uh legit.

00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:09.440
And so there's this beautifully shot scene of Joe Beth Williams as the mom holding Tweety.

00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:13.280
She's like, ah shit, Tweety, couldn't you wait for like a school day?

00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:14.800
Because then we could have just gotten through this.

00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:16.800
And we could have gotten a replacement bird.

00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:18.800
Totally legit 80s momming.

00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:26.800
And there's this scene where she's just perfectly poised over the toilet squatting, getting ready to drop the bird in a toilet, which you wouldn't do because the bird's fucking really big.

00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:32.559
Yeah, that's gonna clog up your that is gonna piss off the spirits, but the moment don't flush the bird.

00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:36.800
Little Carol Ann walks into the bathroom and goes, No.

00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:37.599
Okay.

00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:38.960
That's some trauma.

00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:40.320
So this is the first thing.

00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:43.679
And so there's this whole like, you know, I mean, it just felt so 80s.

00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:48.159
There's this whole Tweety Bird funeral, the dog is there, it's chaos.

00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:53.280
The little girl, like, wants a flower and a napkin and a Twizzler in there.

00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:54.639
And she's brilliant.

00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:56.000
She's such a great actress.

00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:58.079
So they put Tweety in a cigar box.

00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:01.599
And bury him in the backyard.

00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:03.119
And then but not too deep.

00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:11.039
Not too deep because the fucking dog who's called Ebuzz, Eboss, Ebuzz is what we think it is, is digging up the bird.

00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:16.320
And then like and she's like, you know, she buries the bird and she's so sad.

00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:17.519
And then she looks up.

00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:18.800
Can I get a goldfish now?

00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:19.599
And don't you know?

00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:21.840
In the next scene, she got fucking goldfish.

00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:26.639
And in the very next scene, they're excavating for the pool and they dig that fucking bird up.

00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:29.039
It is so 80s.

00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.679
It's just like I feel like the bird should be alive, right?

00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:32.639
Very impermanent.

00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:34.719
Little pet cemetery action.

00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:36.719
I did like that movie.

00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.719
All of these things kind of like set like, okay, something's not quite right.

00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:48.239
And the little boys in the backyard, and he's looking at this giant tree that they like chose to leave in the yard, even though it's clearly dead.

00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:54.239
But the dad goes on and on about how that tree's been here for a really long time and it's really important.

00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:55.199
You know what I mean?

00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:58.079
And don't you know that fucking tree ate that kid later on?

00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:00.559
I mean, that tree got hungry.

00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:02.880
It's a seriously pissed-off tree.

00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:07.119
And so then so do so, okay, you've got the little boys eaten.

00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:08.079
Like dead did?

00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:09.599
Later he gets eaten.

00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:10.639
Dad rescues him.

00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:11.039
It's fine.

00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:16.559
We have to have a reason for the family to go outside in order for Caroline to be left long enough to get disappeared.

00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:21.519
Eating a ch eating a child, the tree eating a child is a yeah, okay it's a distraction.

00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:23.280
You like you do.

00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:27.360
So they're just all these little like hints that something is gonna go wrong.

00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:33.119
There's the premise of the storm, and then the second night the storm comes back, and that's when all hell fucking breaks loose.

00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:37.599
So there's like really good kind of and you know why, right?

00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:44.079
Because you're digging a pool and you get a hole, and now the water's getting in, and it's really pissing the spirits off because now they're soggy.

00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:45.280
Now they're wet.

00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:46.480
It's so sad.

00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:48.159
They got things to talk about.

00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:51.679
So the the storm kind of comes in.

00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:53.840
You can tell it's an unnatural storm.

00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:54.800
Sure, of course.

00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:56.559
The boy is very scared.

00:51:56.559 --> 00:52:06.159
The dad has given him like a reassuring thing to do like, count the seconds between the thunder and the lightning, and you'll be able to tell that you're gonna be okay.

00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:09.920
So the audience is lulled into like, oh, this all worked last night.

00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:12.159
It was fine, it'll work again the second night.

00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:12.719
Nope.

00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:16.800
Sorry, motherfuckers, that tree is gonna bust through that window in the middle of the storm.

00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:28.719
Take that little boy and try to swallow him so that the poltergeist can pull Carol Ann, her sweet innocent self, into the TV.

00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:32.320
Into, we don't know where a closet?

00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:35.920
It's a place with a lot of jelly, is what we find out later.

00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:37.039
Ectoplasma.

00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:40.480
So it's kind of like in between worlds.

00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:42.400
It is a world in between worlds.

00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:43.920
The jelly filling in between.

00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:46.719
It's like a jelly donut.

00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:50.719
It's filled with a lot of jelly because when they go in and rescue them, they're gooey.

00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:51.760
They're gooey?

00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:52.639
They're gooey.

00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:54.480
That's totally ectoplasma.

00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:59.760
And they have to put them in a bathtub to get them to wake up from the goo bath.

00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:01.360
Who are you gonna call?

00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:02.480
Exactly.

00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:06.000
Well, the reality is I'll tell you who they call.

00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:11.360
Yeah, because you said that there's like somebody just locally that they could just pick up the phone and be like, Yeah, it's so brilliant.

00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:12.800
Let me see if we can find her name.

00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:14.400
Her name is Nancy.

00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:15.920
Oh god.

00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:16.480
Okay.

00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:17.679
She's like a psychologist.

00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:19.199
Okay.

00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:20.239
Okay, yeah, tell me.

00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:20.719
Okay.

00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:21.599
Oh, here she is.

00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:23.280
Okay, now I'm gonna totally confuse.

00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:23.840
This is so bad.

00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:24.480
Oh, I love it.

00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:36.559
We're going to confuse her with the the organist in uh 16 Candles when Molly Ringwald's sister gets married.

00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.679
There's that organist, and she actually's got like a squeaky shoe.

00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.920
She might have been the actress in that, but this, but it's a different character.

00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:45.599
I think it might be the same.

00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:46.800
Have you pulled it up?

00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:49.760
Organist 16 Candles.

00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:51.760
So brilliant.

00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:52.800
Oh my god.

00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:57.440
We need to do more of this where I'll tell you a story about a movie that I can ever see.

00:53:57.440 --> 00:53:58.480
Yeah.

00:53:58.480 --> 00:53:58.719
Okay.

00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:00.559
So good.

00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:01.760
This is so dumb.

00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:02.400
I really love it.

00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:06.239
So while he's looking that up, the initial okay.

00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:07.920
So wait, let me just back up a little bit.

00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:12.320
Carolyn gets pulled into what they call a portal inside the closet.

00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:12.800
Okay.

00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:14.639
So the the closet door opens.

00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:15.599
There's all this light.

00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:18.639
I was reading they used like um lighting through.

00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:19.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:20.719
Yeah, that's totally hers.

00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:21.519
Zelda Rubenstein.

00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:28.320
The film with a role alongside her other more famous role in movies like Poltergeist.

00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:28.960
Fucking brilliant.

00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:30.000
Totally okay.

00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:30.639
Look at you.

00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:31.679
Do I know anything?

00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:34.000
Can I remember like what I had for lunch?

00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:34.960
I cannot.

00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:36.000
But do you remember that?

00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.079
Somehow I just pulled that shit out of my life.

00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:38.719
Brilliant.

00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:41.840
So she's like the Deus Ex Machina for all of this, right?

00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:42.079
Okay.

00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:49.920
They go and get the first team of experts, and then she's the other expert that gets brought in when the first team of experts is like stumped and needs extra help.

00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:50.400
Okay.

00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:50.719
Okay.

00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:51.039
All right.

00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:53.280
So she's just brilliant.

00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:54.320
I mean, okay.

00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:55.360
She's awesome.

00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:57.599
She's just okay as an organist.

00:54:57.599 --> 00:54:59.039
She was just mediocre.

00:54:59.039 --> 00:54:59.199
Yeah.

00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:00.880
Was not quite the same level.

00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:01.920
Well, recalling.

00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:07.760
She's not rescuing people from a portal in a closet that is filled with poltergeist spirits.

00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:08.639
And goo.

00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:10.639
And a lot of goo.

00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:12.000
So much.

00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:13.440
We have to really wrap this up.

00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:15.679
People are going to get so fucking bored.

00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:24.559
So essentially, the first character is a parapsychologist, Martha Lesh, and she is a trained psychologist.

00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:29.679
They make it all so like you just buy in because she's like, I'm a psychologist.

00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:35.440
And then I got interested in this weird stuff, and everybody was thinking I was crazy, but she works at a university.

00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:41.760
So when they're not gets sucked into a hole, oh, and they've been having like weird shit happen.

00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:48.159
Like the way the weird shit happens is like suddenly like tree chairs start to move themselves in the kitchen.

00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:50.800
Like they start noticing little things first.

00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:52.800
And that gets them to kind of interact with it.

00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:56.400
And then they steal the kid, they being the poltergeist spirits.

00:55:56.400 --> 00:56:06.000
So the dad goes to the nearby university, I'm guessing like UCLA or whatever, and hooks up with these people.

00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:14.320
So Martha, Ryan, and Marty show up to investigate and they determine there is a poltergeist intrusion involving multiple ghosts.

00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:16.079
Thank you, Wikipedia.

00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:22.639
And Steven learns from his boss that the Quest of Verde development was built on top of a former cemetery.

00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:26.880
And the graves were moved to a nearby location, supposedly.

00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:27.679
Supposedly.

00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:31.440
The one character that totally gets the shaft in this movie is the teenage daughter.

00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:32.880
Like she's kind of in and out.

00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:35.039
It does feel like they cut a bunch of her stuff.

00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:40.079
And she's just basically like out with her friends most of the time because like shit ain't right.

00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:43.039
And everybody's got the TVs on all the time so that you can talk.

00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:44.400
I mean, she can't study.

00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:45.360
Important thing.

00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:48.159
Carolyn can be to spoken to through the TV.

00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:48.639
Okay.

00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:53.760
So can call to her and Carolyn is looking for her, but she can't see her.

00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:56.159
And she's in there with all of the people.

00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:57.599
Like there are all these other spirits.

00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:03.199
And then there's a really bad spirit who's like controlling her or keeping her there.

00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:03.679
Oh.

00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:09.360
See, I could see, like, maybe, you know, she's just in, they wanted her because she's can talk to them.

00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:10.480
Like they're lonely.

00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:12.400
Well, that is part of it.

00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:13.360
Good instincts.

00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:14.079
Oh, good.

00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:19.840
The parapsychologist explains that the reason that they want her is because she has like a life force.

00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:21.280
She's a really strong light.

00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:21.599
Okay.

00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:28.400
And they've been trying to get to the light for a long time, but they've been stopped by the bad guy, black man.

00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:28.800
Yeah.

00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:29.119
Yeah.

00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:30.079
Scary guy.

00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:31.679
And so they want her.

00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:34.159
It's she's like warm and she radiates life.

00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:36.559
And they're like to get to this place.

00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.559
No, he wants to control everybody.

00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:39.840
So he's like, got Caroline.

00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:41.280
What's wrong with him?

00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:42.800
Ah, he's a white guy.

00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:43.840
Oh, there you go.

00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:44.559
Sorry.

00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:45.599
That'll do it.

00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.239
But um but uh I will say it's not just that.

00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:52.079
He's like a cult leader, you know?

00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:55.920
When you're in charge of a cult, you don't want to like give up your cult.

00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:57.199
You want to keep all your people.

00:57:57.840 --> 00:57:59.920
If you give up your cult, your cult, what do you have?

00:57:59.920 --> 00:58:02.480
So what is a cult leader without a cult?

00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:04.159
Nothing.

00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:05.519
Just a guy.

00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:08.079
Guy on the guy on a corner yelling at a microphone.

00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:09.920
Just a guy, I guess.

00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:13.679
So there's a lot more to this movie.

00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:22.880
I can't play by play it, but some of the most brilliant, brilliant scenes, the whole living, kid, the whole family's sleeping in the living room because the children's bedroom is now fucking just haunted as fuck.

00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:28.639
All the cool 70s stuff that is left that hasn't been sucked into the hole in the closet.

00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:29.199
Okay.

00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:30.239
It is a goal.

00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:35.280
In the closet, like is all up there, so they can't open the door.

00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.599
You know, it's still did they get their stuff back?

00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.400
Uh oh no, this is the end of the movie.

00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:42.480
You're gonna fucking love it so much.

00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:46.239
The spirits are so pissed, they fucking suck the whole house.

00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:50.559
The entire house and all of the shit just goes into like a hole in the street.

00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:52.320
But Carolina's storm, right?

00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:54.960
We do rescue her because she's covered with jelly.

00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:55.280
Okay.

00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:58.400
They bring her out of the goo-hole through the ceiling.

00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:00.159
It's a it's a portal.

00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:00.639
Okay.

00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:02.239
I mean, it's really deep science.

00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:03.679
You just you'll have to watch it.

00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:07.280
Yes, I'm clearly not up on my there.

00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:16.000
The bad poltergeist.

00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:16.239
Yes.

00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:17.360
Bad poltergeist.

00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:29.360
There's a really well-known scene where um one of the guys goes in to get some food out of the kitchen and he's like eating a chicken leg, and he bizarrely pulls a steak out of the refrigerator and slaps it on the counter and is going to cook it.

00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:29.760
Okay.

00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:37.199
But then he starts seeing things, and the chicken leg has like maggots all over it, and the steak starts to move, and he imagines he's pulling all of the skin off of his face.

00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:38.559
It's the scene I can't watch.

00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:39.920
It's like too much body horror.

00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:40.559
It's so gross.

00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:42.800
It's it's worms, Michael.

00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:44.639
No, maggots.

00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:45.679
It's maggots, Michael.

00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:46.000
Thank you.

00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:49.199
Tim's like looking at me like, Megan, don't fuck with that.

00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:50.239
You know better.

00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:51.360
Do better.

00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:52.239
Do better.

00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:58.159
Do better, do better with your with your bad reference to a completely different movie.

00:59:58.159 --> 00:59:59.840
Oh my god.

00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:03.360
I find this fascinating.

01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:04.719
It's actually super fun.

01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:08.480
And number one, I don't have to watch it.

01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:09.840
And I'm okay with that.

01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:13.199
Like now I don't have to, but maybe, maybe I want to.

01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:18.079
There's some incredibly wonderful accepted 80s.

01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:25.599
I'm gonna, I'm using the word wonderful with this, very accepted 80s misogyny written into the script early on.

01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:26.079
Okay.

01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:34.639
Where like the mom, like the high school girl, she's like in a very appropriate, appropriate, you know, knee length skirt, blouse.

01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:36.079
She looks very young.

01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:39.840
I mean, she looks like a 16-year-old when we were 16-ish.

01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:44.639
She's getting on her bike and she's being like catcalled by the guys digging the pool.

01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:48.800
And the mom's just like, ah, oh, boys will be boys.

01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:54.800
And she does this great thing and like flips them all off, and they're like, hey, but nobody thinks anything of it.

01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:56.719
It's not like menacing or anything.

01:00:56.719 --> 01:00:58.639
And I'm like, yep, that's how I grew up.

01:00:58.639 --> 01:00:59.679
That's pretty much how it was.

01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:00.880
Exactly it.

01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:02.400
It is just quintessential.

01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:04.000
But I think it's really fun about this.

01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:07.440
So, like, I know we've talked a little bit about Stranger Things.

01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:08.800
Yeah, for sure.

01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:18.320
So clearly, the Duffer brothers, when they were thinking about Stranger Things, I'm sure they have seen Poltergeist 100 million times.

01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:18.880
Absolutely.

01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.639
Because it sounds like there's very much upside-down sort of yes, totally.

01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:24.000
There is that vibe.

01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:27.840
So they can't figure all this shit out on them by themselves.

01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:30.800
The para the para psychology team.

01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:35.280
So they have to go get the piano player from 16 Candles.

01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:48.320
And they have to bring her in because she's like a medium and like can speak with spirits and knows how to go into the goo-hole where everybody's covered with jelly.

01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:52.400
And they need her to like help them figure this whole thing out.

01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:56.079
Her character name is oh my god, it starts with a T.

01:01:56.079 --> 01:01:58.000
It's not Tamson, it's Tahen.

01:01:58.000 --> 01:01:58.960
It's something.

01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:00.079
I can't find it right now.

01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:01.280
It was right in front of me.

01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:03.599
Sorry, I did it again.

01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:06.000
Oh gosh, I don't want to pause it.

01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:07.039
Wait, is it up there?

01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:08.000
A little more.

01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:09.199
I literally just had it.

01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:12.079
It is uh Tangina.

01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:13.280
That's it.

01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:15.280
I was hoping it would pop up down here.

01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:16.320
Tangina.

01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:17.199
What's her last name?

01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:19.360
There is no last name.

01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:21.119
Oh, I think it's in here somewhere.

01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:22.079
We're not gonna do that though.

01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:23.519
My brain will try to figure it out.

01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:24.639
She's brilliant.

01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:25.519
So they bring her in.

01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:27.280
She's a spiritual medium.

01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:29.840
Oh, can you see it?

01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:31.039
Oh, there she is.

01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:32.480
Tangina Barons.

01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:38.159
Zelda Rubenstein as Tangina Barons are both amazing by those names up.

01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:39.599
She should have just stayed herself.

01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:40.239
She should have.

01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:42.480
Zelda is a much more appropriate name for a medium.

01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:44.159
That's what my daughter wanted her name to be.

01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:44.880
Did she really?

01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:45.599
Yeah, she really did.

01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:47.199
She's very mad that we didn't go with that.

01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:48.159
I'm sorry.

01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:49.119
It is what it is.

01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:50.239
We're so sorry, Jim.

01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:57.360
So she cleans the house, helps them rescue their daughter from the goo hole.

01:02:57.360 --> 01:02:59.840
Everything is supposed to be fine.

01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:01.760
And then the house gets sucked into it.

01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:03.679
Well, you know it's not fucking fine.

01:03:03.679 --> 01:03:06.480
They pack everything up, they're getting ready to move.

01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:08.320
Going into the goo hole.

01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:10.239
Mom had to go rescue the girl, right?

01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:14.320
Because a daughter will come to her mother, blah, blah, blah.

01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:15.920
But it wasn't just that.

01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:24.639
But like they sent and they dress Joe Beth Williams in this beautiful white, very like late 70s, early 80s kind of like outfit.

01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:28.000
So she's dressed for like optimum goo coverage.

01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:29.599
Like it's just gonna glow.

01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:31.519
Her hair is beautiful.

01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:33.199
She's she seems light.

01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:34.159
She's glowing.

01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:34.719
She is.

01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:35.840
She is a light.

01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:36.639
She's an angel.

01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:38.639
She's just gonna go in and like rescue her daughter.

01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:42.159
They're gonna pull her out through the other hole in the ceiling.

01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:42.800
Goo hole.

01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:43.440
Yep.

01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:45.119
And they'll get her that way.

01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:51.440
So she goes there, they get her out, everything's fine, and the medium declares the house clean.

01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:54.079
So then the family, of course, is gonna move the fuck out.

01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:54.320
Yeah.

01:03:54.320 --> 01:04:00.400
And as a result of going through the goo hole, she has this like amazing white streaks in her hair that look really, really hot.

01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:06.639
But for some unknown fucking reason, after they've packed up, I don't know, 70% of their house.

01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:07.039
Yeah.

01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:12.639
And the kids are all gonna go just like take a nap while they're waiting for their dad to wrap shit up at the office.

01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:15.119
She decides to go color her hair.

01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:16.800
And don't you know?

01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:20.719
Oh, yes, that quizzical face is exactly what we were making the other night.

01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:21.519
What?

01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:22.719
I was like, why?

01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:24.159
Okay, okay, but it's fine.

01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:24.639
It's fine.

01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:26.000
Okay, okay, okay, okay.

01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:27.920
So my house is possessed.

01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:31.039
My children have been sucked into the house through a goo hole.

01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:33.519
I've had to like wash goo off of them.

01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:35.519
The tree tried to eat my son.

01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:36.079
Yep.

01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:39.679
The all my shit's gone because it's been sucked into a hole.

01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:45.440
I'm not fucking sticking around that house waiting for coach to get off of work.

01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:46.559
Fucking coach.

01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:48.800
Come home and go out.

01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:50.559
You dove into a whole pool.

01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:52.320
You fell into your pool full of skeletons.

01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:52.880
Why?

01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:58.960
Like that happens while they were trying to like save their kid and all of this.

01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:00.880
Oh, it happens after she dyes her hair.

01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:02.079
That's the curse, women.

01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:03.119
Don't dye your hair.

01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:05.280
You're gonna fall into a pool full of skeletons.

01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:06.239
Come in.

01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:08.159
Let your poltergeist grays come in.

01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:08.800
Absolutely.

01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:10.159
Just let it happen.

01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:11.920
Seriously, though.

01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:13.280
The house was clean.

01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:13.920
Oh, okay.

01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:15.119
Until further notice.

01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:17.119
And then they got the notice.

01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:18.400
And it was a big notice.

01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:19.440
It was right on the door.

01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:22.480
I don't give a shit if it, if like the, you know.

01:05:22.800 --> 01:05:23.920
We're just leaving right now.

01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:25.679
I'm certainly not coloring my hair.

01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:26.480
I'm certainly why.

01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:30.559
I am not spending enough time in that bathroom to color my hair.

01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:41.199
So at the very end, there's like caskets busting up through the floor and the walls and like out of the pool and like through the yard.

01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:44.079
There's bodies, bones everywhere.

01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:46.960
It's clear the creature in the house is clearly going.

01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:53.519
So she they get everybody out, and then the house gets like sucked into this hole into some Tangina slips out of existence.

01:05:53.519 --> 01:06:08.880
Tangina should stick to organ playing at weddings because that is a shitty job as a you know, she was really just like a goo-hole rescue expert society expert and did not actually send the spirits away.

01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:10.079
She thought she had though.

01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:12.320
She thought she'd sent them all to the light and it was fine.

01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:13.920
Black hat guy.

01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:15.920
I think he's the problem.

01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:16.880
Yeah, probably.

01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:18.559
I mean, we'll learn that in the next movie.

01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:19.519
He's the problem.

01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:20.800
Which I will not watch.

01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:22.559
Which is totally fine.

01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:30.639
So there are a couple of aside from just the fucking, you know, like spellbinding story that you have been listening to.

01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:35.280
Joe Beth Williams was not aware that she was swimming in a pool full of real skeletons.

01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:41.599
Oh, so the actress herself, they put her in a pool full of actual why?

01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:46.400
Because they were cheaper than rubber skeletons at the time.

01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:50.719
They were released from like a medical some, some, some, some.

01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:56.320
And the technology to like make fake skeletons at the time was not that great.

01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:57.519
And they were kind of floppy.

01:06:57.840 --> 01:06:59.199
And so they used real bones.

01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:01.440
All of those people really wanted to be in theater.

01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:04.639
I'm gonna break it in someday into the movies.

01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:07.760
You're gonna you just need to be able to swim with real skeletons.

01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:09.280
Wait, just wait some day.

01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:12.960
Are those real skeletons?

01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:15.440
At least the bones of me on the real screen.

01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:16.079
Oh, you know.

01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:22.719
Yeah, we could donate our skeletons to movie magic in the future, please.

01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:27.760
And they'll be like, my god, these crazy women, don't they know that we don't use real skeletons anymore?

01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:32.480
So there is a little bit of like a curse, a poltergeist curse.

01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:34.320
And I I do remember this.

01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:37.440
I didn't know why, but I just like, oh, it's a scary movie.

01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:39.599
It's sort of like the Scottish play.

01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:40.000
Uh-huh.

01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:41.599
You know, it's got this like vibe.

01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:46.719
So the 16-year-old character was played by Dominic Dunn.

01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:53.519
And I think like the day that the movie came out, or shortly thereafter, she was actually murdered by her boyfriend, which was horrifying.

01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:55.360
And she was a young teenager.

01:07:55.360 --> 01:08:07.119
Heather O'Rourke, who played Carol Ann, which was the youngest daughter, died when she was 12 in 1988 from complications of an intestinal obstruction that was misdiagnosed, which is really sad.

01:08:07.119 --> 01:08:15.840
Julianne Beck, this one's less woo-woo, played Reverend Cained, creepy black cat guy, and poltergeist 2, died of stomach cancer shortly after the film was released.

01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:18.880
Will Sampson played-I mean, to be fair, he didn't look good.

01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:25.439
Taylor in poltergeist 2 died in 1987 from complications following a heart and lung transplant.

01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:30.960
And then Lou Perryman played Pugsley, the construction worker in the original.

01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:34.640
The construction workers are the ones that are like the straight up funny misogynist.

01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:35.920
Can we put those two words together?

01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:36.079
Yes.

01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:36.960
Ha ha ha ha.

01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:39.600
He was murdered in 2009.

01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:46.479
So the alleged origin of the curse was the use of real human skeletons as props.

01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:55.760
The real skeletons were believed to be a cost-saving measure, and the practice is seen as a direct parallel to the film's plot about spirits being disturbed by the desecration of their gold.

01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:58.640
There is a little irony there, isn't there?

01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:00.479
Just a wee bit of irony.

01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:05.119
It's it's an it's freaky enough for it to be freaky.

01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:07.920
Um is wild.

01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:09.279
Yep, absolutely.

01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:11.199
Is Craig T Nelson still alive?

01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:12.159
Yeah, he is.

01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:16.399
So he's hanging in there, but he probably didn't go swimming with the skeletons, right?

01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:18.000
Uh no, he was at the office.

01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:20.239
You know, just they just gave him this line.

01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:20.960
He was off.

01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:31.359
It was such a like it was such a shitty piece of writing because it doesn't make sense, but it's clearly set up so that they can do this whole finale like closing scene.

01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:35.119
I mean, he probably went to the office to list the fucking house.

01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:36.319
Right?

01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:42.159
Well, and it there is a little bit of this, like, you know, he gets tempted by the devil, right?

01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:49.039
Like the developer offers him like tons of money, a new house in phase four, all of this stuff.

01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:51.199
Like, you're our top sales guy.

01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:53.760
Like, keep, you know, keep going, keep going.

01:09:53.760 --> 01:10:00.399
And after all this shit happens and he finds out what the company did, you know, he's the ethical kind of like every man.

01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:02.319
He's like, fuck you, I don't need your fucking money.

01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:03.119
I don't want anything.

01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:03.760
That's good.

01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:07.039
His house gets sucked into nowhere.

01:10:07.039 --> 01:10:07.680
Yeah.

01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:09.279
And they leave.

01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:13.439
So of course he shows up in the car, he rescues his family, gets them all in there.

01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:16.239
They do this is probably one of my favorite.

01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:18.239
It is, it's the closing end.

01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:20.159
I'll I have too many words about this.

01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:23.279
They get in the station wagon with the dog, everything's fine.

01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:24.880
Dana finally shows back up.

01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:28.079
The teenage daughter makes it dog makes it, he's all good.

01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:32.960
And they get in the car, they drive to a fucking hotel, they're at a holiday in.

01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:33.359
Oh no.

01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:34.319
The shot is brilliant.

01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:35.520
I just keep hitting this.

01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:36.880
My hand is too excited.

01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:39.920
It's got the neon light, yeah, holiday in.

01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:42.079
They go into the room.

01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:42.560
Oh no.

01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:44.800
It's a motel, so the rooms are on the outside.

01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:47.039
Because movies never end the way you think they're gonna end.

01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:48.079
There's gotta be something.

01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:49.039
Close the door.

01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:49.439
Yeah.

01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:51.760
It waits like 10 seconds.

01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:56.000
And the TV opens the door, throws the TV out of the room, closes the door.

01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:57.199
Okay.

01:10:57.199 --> 01:11:00.159
So it is it is a nice little knot.

01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:05.199
I was afraid like maybe there was just some static or something when they opened the open the door to the room and it's not.

01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:06.720
They didn't torture you in that way.

01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:08.560
They like end the movie as a chance.

01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:11.119
With a little like little finesse.

01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:11.840
Yeah.

01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:13.920
So there's like a little giggle at the end.

01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:14.560
All right.

01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:16.000
You went on a journey.

01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:19.119
That was something, and I don't hate it.

01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:21.279
It's quintessential 80s.

01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:29.520
If you have not re-watched it in a long time, listening audience, and if you bothered to get to the end of this conversation, watch it because it's just wild.

01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:34.239
You are like, oh yeah, or it feels there's so much sense memory.

01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:35.920
It's like, yeah, this feels accurate.

01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:38.319
This these were my friends' houses.

01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:43.760
You know, it's this was I didn't live in a subdivision like that, but like I remember them.

01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:47.439
You know, it's yeah, it feels right.

01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:49.039
So there you go.

01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:50.800
Well, that is super fun.

01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:54.000
Thank you for taking me on into the Google.

01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:55.840
Anytime.

01:11:55.840 --> 01:11:58.800
Google does not have ball bearings.

01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:00.159
Oh my god, that's so funny.

01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:04.800
Sue Johansson from Canada did not know about it, sadly.

01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:06.239
However, here we are.

01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:07.359
I loved it.

01:12:07.359 --> 01:12:08.479
So maybe next time.

01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:09.359
Oh, there he is.

01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:10.560
You should see me a picture of Scooby.

01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:12.079
Oh, I'm so sorry, scary dude.

01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:12.960
Yeah, he was right there.

01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:13.520
I like him.

01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:14.479
It freaks you out.

01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:15.520
I really don't like him.

01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:18.239
Maybe you find a comedy scene.

01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:18.880
Oh, right.

01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:19.359
Like yes.

01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:20.000
As an actor.

01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:20.720
I'm sorry he died.

01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:21.840
Absolutely.

01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.319
He was so scary.

01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:26.720
Uh, such a scary, scary dude.

01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:28.159
And he is in that second movie.

01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:35.439
And it's gotta be pretty soon after the first one because it's a except for Dominique Dunn, because she was right.

01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:37.760
But yes, it is the same cast.

01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:39.039
So there you go.

01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:39.840
That's what we got.

01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:40.800
That's enough.

01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:43.039
We'd move to the other side of the world.

01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:43.920
That is enough.

01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:47.600
That took and probably rent like 40 minutes.

01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:48.720
Probably.

01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:50.000
Sorry, friends.

01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:51.039
We'll edit that down.

01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:51.600
Uh-uh.

01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:52.800
We'll see what happens.

01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:54.239
That was fun.

01:12:54.239 --> 01:12:56.079
Hope you enjoyed your little stroll.

01:12:56.079 --> 01:12:56.800
You're welcome.

01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:58.000
My pleasure.

01:12:58.479 --> 01:12:58.880
All right.

01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:00.079
I'm gonna pick the next movie.

01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:02.960
So we have to call this like some sort of movie night or something.

01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:05.279
Yeah, we'll find something clever to say.

01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:05.920
Sweet.

01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:07.520
I'll see you next time.

01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:09.039
Yes, let's do that.

01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:12.479
And we'll be my god, we're getting into the holiday season.

01:13:12.479 --> 01:13:12.960
Shh.

01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:14.479
We'll talk about that later.

01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:14.960
Okay.

01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:16.319
I'm not gonna talk about that now.

01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:17.520
Good night.

01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:18.960
Thanks, everybody.

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You don't tick the talk?

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I barely talk the tick, but I did put a TikTok or TikTok.

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That's okay though.

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That's great.

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We need to know how to get that works.

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Can people buy merch?

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They absolutely can.

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We have a merch store on the website itself.

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And we also have an Etsy store too.

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So they're just pretty easy to find.

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It's just Gen X Women.

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Etsy.

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And if you are listening to this podcast, presumably you found it somewhere.

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And while you're there, give us a review.

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Yeah.

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Let us know what you think.

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Throw some stars at us.

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That'd be great.

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Take one, two, three, four, or five.

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Ooh, five.

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Maybe.

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And and also make sure that you are hitting subscribe so that you're notified whenever a new episode drops.

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Most important.

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We also have a five minutes of fame that I think we should tell people about it too.

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Hell yes.

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We want to know your stories, your five minutes of fame stories.

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You can send those stories in on the website.

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Or you can call 1888 Gen X COD and leave your story for us, and we will play it live in our next episode.

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We'll listen to it on a little red phone just like Batman.

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That'd be a Batbone.

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I think that's it.

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I think great.