Feb. 7, 2026

Smile More? Sure. F*ck Off!

Smile More? Sure. F*ck Off!
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Season 3

TW: Discussions related to the release of the Epstein files.
On our listen back we realized this was a pretty tough conversation. We chose to leave it as it happened live. We can speak only to our own experiences and are not experts outside of that. This is a personal reflection from two Gen X cis white midwestern women's experience. 

The year has barely started and its a dumpster fire—snowbanks swallowing bumpers, headlines swallowing hope. We take that energy and point it at the news cycle’s biggest shock: the Epstein files, the broken redactions, and how institutions bend to protect power instead of people. From the perspective of two GenX women, we untangle how we were taught to smooth chaos with a smile, how pop culture made “go along to get along” feel normal, and why that conditioning makes this moment cut so deep.

We also hold space for joy and legacy with a heartfelt goodbye to Catherine O’Hara. Her work in Best in Show, A Mighty Wind, and Schitt’s Creek wasn’t just hilarious—it modeled grace, warmth, and ensemble magic. That contrast matters. When the world rewards cruelty, artists who choose kindness show us how culture can heal.

Across the hour, we map the patterns: distraction tactics that flood our feeds, projection that accuses others of the harm being done, and the old story that women’s worth is transactional. We share personal stories from middle school to early adulthood—creepy compliments, age gaps normalized, the way consent was never modeled—and we mark what’s changing now. Today’s teens name grooming, reject “smile more,” and understand power gaps. Parents teach consent by refusing forced hugs with relatives. Boundary language—own your no, you are not responsible for other people’s behavior—has moved into everyday life.

Sanity requires strategy, so we get practical. Take breaks with comfort shows. Do one small good: Small acts restore agency and reconnect us to a community that algorithms can’t cheapen. Believe survivors. Learn the signs of grooming and projection. Talk to kids about power, not purity. And keep your humor sharp—it lightens the load without shrinking the truth.

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00:00 - Ice, Cars, And Surviving February

04:20 - Dinosaurs, Aliens, And 1970s Smog

09:40 - New Two‑Episode, Single Subject Format

13:15 - The Elephant: Epstein Files Fallout

18:20 - Farewell To Catherine O’Hara

26:10 - Empathy, Media, And Missing Protections

33:40 - Distraction Tactics And Dysfunction

42:10 - Gen X Upbringing And Illusions Of Safety

52:20 - Power, Patriarchy, And Value Of Women

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I'm Megan Bennett.

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I'm Lesley Meier.

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And this is Gen X Women Are Sick of This Shit.

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Hi, Lesley.

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Hi, Megan.

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Hi.

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Oh my god.

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Hello, 2026.

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Here it is.

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You fucking dumpster fire of year already.

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You thought you were gonna be different and special.

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Nope.

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Boy, howdy.

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You are a shit year.

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This is the longest year.

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Two months, these last two months have been the longest year.

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Yes.

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It's been the last year.

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Oh, it's only been one month.

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This year.

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It's only been one month.

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It is only February.

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Only just now.

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It's only just February.

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And it has been the longest year.

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Yeah.

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So that's fun.

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Here we are.

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So we're back.

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We're talking.

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We're back.

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And we're in two different places because it's definitely February in Indiana.

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Yes.

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And I have a Mini Cooper as a car, and we have a shit ton of snow.

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And I'm not entirely sure I can get it out of the alley behind my house.

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So haven't tried yet.

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Husband's been driving me to work.

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I'm relying on him.

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Very nice.

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Yeah, I'm concerned about the underneath of my regular size car.

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Like it hits some snow, like the frozen crusty icebergs that get like in the middle when they don't plow, and you're just like, hope for the best.

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You're like, well, there goes my muffler.

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Yep.

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Mm-hmm.

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I'm a little concerned.

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My car is very unnew.

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So I just am like, don't poke any holes, please.

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Don't poke any holes.

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And then what will happen after that is all the potholes.

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So when this actually all melts, then we'll just have a shit ton of potholes.

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And my little Mini Cooper will just fall into one.

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Mm-hmm.

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You also won't be taking the Mini Cooper out.

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It'll be like the land of the lost.

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I'll just go right down into the center of the earth.

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You're gonna find some dinosaurs.

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That would be cool.

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I would not be sad about that.

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Let's go find some dinosaurs.

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I think that would really spice things up, change a pace.

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I think if we could get some dinosaurs, maybe some aliens, that would be, you know, an alien race makes contact with us now.

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That could be good.

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They are not touching this planet with a 10 light.

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No, no, no, no.

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They're just like, oh no.

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You remember when we checked in in the 70s?

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Yeah.

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We're still not doing that.

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You guys had a you guys had a haze of like lead gas and you know, filth.

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That's when I think of the 70s in my mind, I'm picturing it just with a haze and a smell of leaded gasoline.

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Yeah.

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Aliens were like, fuck that shit.

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And then they took a break, you know, and then they came back and they were like, nope.

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Nope.

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We were just barely one step away from like industrialized England.

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With like coal.

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That was that was the US in the 70s.

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We just had to do it again.

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And child labor.

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Of course.

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My God.

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Where would we be without child labor?

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Please, sir.

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Please, sir.

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May I have another?

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Oh, that yeah.

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My land out.

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Jesus.

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So hi.

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Here.

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Hi.

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We're gonna, we're gonna try to we're gonna do an episode today.

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We're gonna rally.

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And we're gonna, we're changing up, like, who knows?

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We changed things, I think, like twice last year at different times.

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But we just threw different things in.

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We were like, oh, let's talk about a movie.

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Oh, let's do this.

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That'll be a good time.

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But we're gonna try a little bit of a different format in terms of like our two episodes each month.

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Right.

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And that's mostly because for our sanity, right?

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And for time.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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And then also just to try something new.

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I do want to get back to the movie thing too.

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I need to I had that on my radar.

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Watch a movie with you because I still have my movie in mind that I kind of need to share with you.

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And I don't even remember what it is now, so it's even better.

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I avoided it.

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I don't think I ever told you.

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I don't think I ever told you, and that's fine.

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I'm not going to.

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I'm we're just gonna dive right in, and you're just gonna go, what the fuck am I watching?

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And it's gonna be fantastic.

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It's gonna be awesome.

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I'm super excited about it.

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So that'll be fun.

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We'll do that at some point.

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Yeah.

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But here we are doing something else.

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And we're gonna kind of split it.

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Like, we're gonna do one that's kind of like current events, like because it'll be sort of at the time of recording, like news that is now, and kind of our perspective on it, or how that sort of weaves back into our generation, like just for Gen X women, like how the current events are kind of resonating.

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And then we're gonna do one that's like nostalgia.

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Candy.

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A little bit more light.

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Candy.

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Yes, I think that's a good idea.

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So today, right, we were gonna we were gonna talk about the giant elephant in the room.

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It's so fucking enormous.

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It's a big ass elephant.

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And yet the United States seems to still be avoiding talking about it, unlike France and Britain, who are actively firing people, opening up criminal investigations.

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Like this is what sane people do when you get news of this magnitude.

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But we don't do that here because I think this particular Epstein scandal is so deep into all of the weeds and all the people and all the places in this country, I'm not even sure how they would go about sussing out all the pieces.

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Oh my gosh.

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It will go on forever in the end.

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Yes.

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Truly, like in terms of prosecution.

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Like Celine Dion.

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My heart will go on.

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This court case will go on.

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And if you know, if you grew up in a dysfunctional family, what is happening makes sense.

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What do you do in a dysfunctional family?

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You just sweep it under the rug.

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Just ignore it.

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It's fine.

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Just don't go near your creepy uncle.

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It's really on you, kid.

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Right.

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Your responsibility not to end up in a room with your creepy uncle or second cousin or whomever.

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Yes.

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The pervy one in in your family's life.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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So there's there's that piece, but we're gonna start by saying our fond farewells, goodbye to a really incredible actor, Katherine O'Hara.

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Yeah, we talked about this.

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We were like, do we still want to touch on, you know, people who died?

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Because let's be honest, that gets really fucking depressing when people keep dropping dead.

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I mean, we're all gonna die.

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This is one certainty.

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Right.

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Sure, sure.

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We had, but we had for a while there, we had like four people in an episode that we were talking about because it was like, what the fuck?

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It was so depressing.

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Yes.

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But we have to talk about her because hysterical queen best in show was is probably my favorite most favorite film.

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Although, like, I mean, Mighty Wind, also incredibly brilliant.

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You know, she just absolutely shined in everything.

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And of course, she's like most beloved for Shits Creek.

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And I think that that's what like most people how they knew her, particularly people like of our kids' generation.

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Although, like Beetlejuice, they definitely would have.

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I mean, my kids definitely watch Beetlejuice and and Home Alone.

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Oh, fair, yeah, as well.

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Yeah, but I think you're right.

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I think Shits Creek was probably the most famous with her.

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I think Best and Show was hilarious.

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That movie just from start to finish is so good.

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The the scene with genius.

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Oh shit.

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The scene with the couple that the dog that's yes, gotta go.

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So get my business.

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When they talk about how they met and that he was at Starbucks and she was at the Starbucks across the street, I swear to God was the funniest line.

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I'm like, and I know it was all improv, and that's what's so fantastic about it.

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It was just brilliant.

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I was at Starbucks.

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She was Starbucks across the street.

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She was across the street.

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And does the ensemble, I mean, of actors that she could perform with just so completely, seamlessly, flawlessly, just totally brilliant.

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And it was, I don't know.

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I think because of the joy attached to her career, it was just kind of like a gut punch.

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It was just like, oh no, not that person.

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Like not now.

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Like, we need you.

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Please don't go.

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Yes.

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Yes, yes.

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Yeah.

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I think I read an I read a story, and I can't remember now where I saw it, but it was a somebody was kind of reminiscing about they were a waitress in New York City, and they got the job because, and this will tie into what we're talking about.

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Oh, brilliant.

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They got the job not because they were a skilled waitress, they got the job because they looked really good and had good tits and tied ass.

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All that misogynistic shit.

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Yes, I hear that.

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So they were hired to work in this cocktail lounge that had, you know, dark a dark room, and it was where all the famous people went to hang out.

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Uh-huh.

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Oh yeah.

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And Catherine O'Hara happened to be there, and this woman recounts like meeting her and how she broke all the rules working in this place, like on week two of working there, because she got to meet Catherine O'Hara, who was a delight, who was asking her all kinds of questions, who was just like taking her under her wing and like being just an absolute sweetheart of a human being.

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That's amazing.

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And the rule, of course, in the place was like you don't talk to the celebrities, you don't blah blah blah.

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So they're just people, you don't pay any attention to like who they are.

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They're just customers like anybody else.

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Right, right.

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Or you just fall over backwards and treat them with reverence, but you don't ever care talk to them questions.

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Sure, right.

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Getting autographs, you're not doing any of those things.

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No taking pictures.

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Yes.

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But she was she was clearly like smitten with her and how I think it might have been Rolling Stone, come to think of it.

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But anyway, she talked about how she, you know, broke broke the rules by meeting her and how lovely she was.

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So that's wonderful.

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Of course she was.

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Of course she was.

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It's it is uh it's heart heartwarming.

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It brings hope when you hear about people that you adore on screen or like in music or authors or just anybody who's like semi-famous, and then you hear stories about them in real life where they could be assholes and they aren't.

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Yeah.

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And you're just like, oh, you're actually a good person all the time.

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Because there's always the flip of that, too, where there's the people who you expect would be absolutely delightful, and then you hear a story and you're like, What?

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Yeah, they're a dick.

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Like they throw tantrums, they're really demanding, right?

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Right.

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Yeah, I totally hear that.

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And and it proves like it didn't take a lot to be a good person, Megan.

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No, no, it doesn't take a lot.

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It's really just taking a second and thinking about how somebody else feels.

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Yes, it's I think that's a critical skill.

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Did you know that that is called empathy?

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I did know that.

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And there are people who feel like it's missing.

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Oh, yeah.

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You feel like it's generally speaking, it's missing in the world.

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Yes, more and more.

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This is like a conversation that I have had more than once this week.

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And I think particularly you and I were talking a little bit about this since the like half of the trove of the Epstein files was dumped, and none of the proper precautions were taken to protect survivors.

00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:22.159
Plenty of precautions-ish were taken to protect the perpetrators.

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Yeah, kind of, not really.

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I mean, docs are still getting pulled down and redacted right now, and you sure as fuck know they've already all been downloaded.

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Sure.

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I hope.

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I hope so many people instantly like slurped all those up.

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Plus, you know how do you, how do you, and we'll get into this, I know, but how do you justify uploading those docs and just leaving naked pictures in of children?

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Distributing child essay material.

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The fun yeah, yeah.

00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:06.480
It's yes, it's called not having a conscience.

00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:09.840
Yeah.

00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:16.720
I mean or is it legitimately distraction tactics, right?

00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:25.120
Like this is now I'm going to start getting crazy and conspiratorial because I feel like the world just I don't know.

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I'm just getting there.

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I'm becoming crazy.

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But I think I every time I hear something like that, I'm like, was this done on purpose?

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Just to distract us, you know, or was it a legit mistake or just carelessness?

00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:41.039
Right.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, I I kind of land in the world of like I don't think they're smart enough to have a coordinated effort for distraction.

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This is my this is what I imagine.

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Okay.

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One part of the government, like one person just gets pissed enough and does it's like how the system works together.

00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:20.720
So like part of me when I because it's the piece about not having they didn't even bother to go through, they could have removed thousands of documents that mention Donald Trump.

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They could have.

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So it's when I heard that, I was like, oh, she fucking did that on purpose.

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She's like, fuck you, dude.

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Like, I just wonder how the like infighting is happening.

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That's where my brain went.

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Yeah.

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It's like lobbying weapon, you know, from the inside and the like external, those are like the unintended consequences.

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Like, nobody's gonna think about victims because they're all attacking each other, like they're victimizing one another.

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And we know that was true in the first administration, like his first go-around.

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Like because all of that shit was leaked, and you heard the stories, and people would go on camera and be like, this is a fucking crazy place, blah, blah, blah.

00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:06.960
Yes.

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You don't hear that as much now.

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So they've locked that down a little bit.

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But no, you're probably right.

00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:16.159
I mean, I just think it's like so.

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I never watched that TV show.

00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:19.519
Was it like Succession?

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Was that what it was called?

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I watched two episodes.

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I hated it.

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It was, it's just mean.

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Yeah.

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And it's like there's just a family of narcissists.

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It's like all this different kinds of narcissism.

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And nobody's thinking about anybody else but themselves, ultimately.

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So, like all of the pain and suffering that is caused is like a consequence of how fucking self-absorbed they are.

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Yeah.

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So, and then sometimes it is nice to think, yeah, we're just gonna fucking do that, you know, fuck you, dude.

00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:54.879
But I just imagine that it's just like this you were lobbing bombs.

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No common person matters.

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And when everybody starts to pay attention too much, we're just gonna go and like fuck with Minneapolis a little bit more, right?

00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:19.359
Like, we're gonna go do these other really outrageous fucking things because you know, so it's I imagine it's a combination of we're gonna fuck with elections, we're gonna fuck with we're just gonna keep saying crazy shit so that you don't know where to look.

00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:19.680
Yeah.

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Well, that's true.

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That's a hundred percent true.

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It is, it is so much information being thrown at us all the time.

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Yeah, you know, just to distract, just to make you a little bit crazy and to throw you off balance.

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And they said full on at the beginning, I think Steve Bannon said that, that that was the whole plot of this administration was gonna be you do this, you just keep doing it, hammer them with it over and over and over again, and then something else over here, and then something else over here, and keep people off balance, and then you can do anything you want.

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Because apparently the name of the game is just corruption across the board.

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I just gotta get away with it because we can.

00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:07.440
And part of that, like the first time you do corruption and nobody stops you, right?

00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:13.039
Like you the Senate, the House doesn't stop you, the Supreme Court doesn't stop you.

00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:14.400
Yes.

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Who's who's gonna stop you the next 500 times you do it?

00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:21.359
It takes them too long to realize that the rules have changed.

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They don't care.

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So shout out to all the other kids of alcoholics.

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You, this is your time to shine.

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You know exactly what's happening.

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Like adult children of alcoholics and addicts, rise because you can see this shit a mile lived through it.

00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:54.480
Or yeah, I guess the opposite, the counterpoint to that I'm gonna argue with myself, is that you are like so knee deep because you've gone along with the authoritarianism.

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Both in, but I'm gonna guess most of us are like sniffing that shit out.

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This is crazy.

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It's crazy.

00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:01.039
Really?

00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:07.039
But we're talking about it today for a reason, not just because we're being made crazy.

00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:09.839
Although that is true.

00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:11.279
Fair.

00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:12.799
Fair point.

00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:23.039
I mean, the the QAnon cabal, the cabal that they were talking about, you know, a few years ago, is in fact a real thing.

00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:26.160
It's just not pointed at the right direction.

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Yes, everyone should research projection and look for it in your own daily life because I guarantee you do it.

00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:37.599
But that is absolutely what has happened.

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No, look over there.

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They're doing this terrible thing.

00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:40.799
Yep.

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All while how dare they?

00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:46.079
I can't I can't imagine anybody doing this.

00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:47.359
Right.

00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:50.000
While you're like pillaging the coffers.

00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:52.079
Lord.

00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:53.680
Anyway, go ahead.

00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:55.759
Sorry, I entered, I interrupted you.

00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:58.480
Uh, we're talking about today, Leslie.

00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:16.160
We're talking about so this just this whole experience, like last week, you know, I watch watch my picked new, you know, I got a little selection of like news sources, and I was just like processing the impact of my own nervous system.

00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:21.599
And I was having just like a little side conversation with somebody that I had gone to middle school with.

00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:30.720
And I think like, you know, it's sort of one thing to grow up and go, yeah, like the rules were different.

00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:35.920
I mean, you and I have talked about like every time we watch a movie from the 80s, I was like, there are just boobs everywhere.

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Like boobs everywhere.

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Boobs are just like, I don't know, it's like getting a cheeseburger, right?

00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:47.359
Like our bodies weren't cherished in any particular way.

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Like female bodies were not cherished.

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We were the punchline of so many just 80s jokes.

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And just like the water that we grew up in and the culture surrounding that.

00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:14.400
But we also had this like weird blip of like suddenly our generation, like late 60s, early 70s babies were also invited to like, oh, but you should go to college.

00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:14.960
Wonderful.

00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:16.559
My mom had a checking account.

00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:17.359
Fantastic.

00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:23.839
Not until well after I was born, but like, you know, we got some autonomy in the world.

00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:34.079
So we we had rights shortly after our birth, not right away, but within a few years, we had some rights.

00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.680
Which is just wild to think, right?

00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:43.279
Like that it was in our lifetime after we were born.

00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:44.079
Yes.

00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:55.839
After we were born, there was you could run your own finances and get access to no fault divorce and like probably get hired.

00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:56.559
What?

00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:57.759
In most places.

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In most places.

00:21:58.960 --> 00:21:59.279
Yeah.

00:21:59.440 --> 00:21:59.680
Yeah.

00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:00.480
Oh.

00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:01.359
Yeah.

00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:01.839
Yeah.

00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:04.079
You could, yeah.

00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:07.599
I mean, it felt we had the birth control pill.

00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:07.920
Yeah.

00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:10.000
So we had like some sexual freedom.

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And like protection.

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Supposed, right?

00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:13.599
Yeah.

00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:18.559
In terms of like unwanted pregnancies, you know.

00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:24.319
I mean, we still had to be responsible for being careful walking around outside of the world.

00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:24.960
Of course.

00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:29.279
Because, you know, you could be essayed at any time.

00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:30.559
What are you wearing?

00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:31.359
You had it.

00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:31.759
Exactly.

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That's your fucking fault, but at least you won't get pregnant.

00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:47.759
And we had growing up, we had movies that were starting to teach us that we had agency that we didn't have before.

00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:50.400
Like I'm thinking about the movie Nine to Five.

00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:50.880
Yes.

00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:51.200
Right.

00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:56.880
Where you know, you've got Dolly Parton and and oh shit.

00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:57.839
Fondas in that.

00:22:57.839 --> 00:22:59.119
Jane Fonda and yes.

00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:00.000
Lily Tomlin.

00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:01.200
Lily Tomlin.

00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:04.319
And together they kill their boss.

00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:05.119
Yes.

00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:06.480
No, they kidnap him.

00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:07.359
Hold him hostage.

00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:07.680
Yeah.

00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:08.000
Yeah.

00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:09.759
So we weren't quite there.

00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:11.279
We didn't exactly kill him yet.

00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:15.440
If it were made today, we'd probably kill him.

00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:16.079
You never know.

00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:18.160
Um they taught him a lesson.

00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:19.359
They did.

00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:21.440
He had some cumbuppance.

00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:27.519
But that was like, you know, we're fighting back against the system.

00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.240
We're we've got these jobs.

00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:32.400
We're, you know, we're strong.

00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:33.759
We're independent women.

00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:34.960
We don't need a man.

00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:36.640
We blah, blah, blah.

00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:39.440
So we were taught kind of that stuff.

00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:40.240
Yeah.

00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:42.880
On TV too, like 3's company.

00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:44.160
Right.

00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:46.880
What was the TV show set in Indianapolis?

00:23:46.880 --> 00:23:47.920
We've talked about it before.

00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:48.960
One day at a time.

00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:49.599
Yeah.

00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:51.039
One, yeah, one day at a time.

00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:51.440
Right.

00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:52.960
Valerie Burtonelli was in that.

00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:53.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:54.079
Okay.

00:23:54.079 --> 00:24:05.599
So I think there was this, like, in in my brain, I was sort of assuming lots of things about my relative like power and privilege.

00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:10.160
I didn't know those words then, but it's just like, yeah, of course I could just like get a job.

00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:15.200
It wasn't separated from the requirement to be married.

00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:21.039
Like that was still sort of like, oh, you're gonna need being in a relationship, still has clout, right?

00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:24.880
There's some relative social stuff.

00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:28.240
It wasn't quite pulled out from that yet.

00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:33.519
I had some pretty strong role models that were examples of that.

00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:37.599
But like, yeah, but I got a degree, you know.

00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:43.680
I mean, all the I'm sure I got married right after college, but like I got a degree, you know, I did these things.

00:24:43.680 --> 00:25:03.200
And we were talking about it because I think it just hit me like how being raised in that, seeing different role models, having different experiences laid out in front of me kind of gave me this illusion of things are better, right?

00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:05.680
Like there's some relative safety.

00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:11.759
And luckily enough, like I think every woman has had scary experiences.

00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:18.319
But I was never in a position to be like kidnapped or trafficked.

00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:22.160
I was not that vulnerable as I say that out loud.

00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:23.599
I'm like, I don't know, maybe.

00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:27.440
I mean, there were definitely vulnerable places where I was extremely vulnerable.

00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:28.000
Yeah.

00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:28.880
And for whatever.

00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:35.920
In this case, any of us who didn't have that happen kind of just got lucky, right?

00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:36.799
Absolutely.

00:25:36.799 --> 00:26:03.359
Because because you you called it, you just you called it out just a second ago, and that was this like appearance, this this false sense of security, this false sense of women were equal, women were empowered, women, you know, all of that was on display, and it was kind of like, yeah, that's where we are.

00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:05.680
But were we, right?

00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:21.599
Like, I was definitely echoed in like the people I was around, like my family, like I was raised, you know, my grandmother was single, had a career, took care of her family, like it all came out of necessity.

00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:26.000
Like, similarly, like your mom had a career, like provided for you guys.

00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:39.279
I mean, there was this, okay, yeah, this is, and the reality is like I think there we're learning there are a fair number of people that just don't agree with that.

00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:41.359
Correct.

00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:43.839
Like, yes, correct.

00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:50.720
And it's a a large group of people, as it turns out, that don't agree with that.

00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:51.599
Right.

00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:53.119
And it's so- Yeah, I do.

00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:56.640
I feel like we've had this rug just yanked out from underneath us.

00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:06.160
And part of that is, I mean, I guess maybe it's being naive, like, and not I don't know.

00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:07.119
I I don't know.

00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:07.839
I don't know.

00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:10.720
I don't, I think I kind of get a sense of what you're talking about.

00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:13.279
I don't think it's naivete at all.

00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:21.680
Like, I certainly am not naive about the harms and atrocities committed against women globally all the time.

00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:46.799
I think what what takes a while to kind of like sink into is the depths to which, the lengths to which people will go to continue to cause harm, to hold on to patriarchal norms, to hang on to misogyny at all cost.

00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:50.319
It's just like the levels of hell.

00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:54.640
Like we thought reading Dante's Inferno was like, whoa, crazy.

00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:57.759
It is nothing like this.

00:27:58.160 --> 00:27:58.480
Yeah.

00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:02.319
You know, it's just it, it so it takes you aback.

00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:36.400
And I think that that in that moment when we were just, I mean, we exchanged a couple of messages and it was just like, it was just nail, you know, it's like, oh, it's like 12 year old young women, 11-year-old young women, knowing I was just flashing through moments in my life where it was like, oh yeah, you should smile at that 35 or 40 or 50-year-old man and say thank you for complimenting your body because that is what you are expected to do.

00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:46.000
I I think the other, yes, and I know we're gonna talk a little bit more about that.

00:28:46.000 --> 00:29:09.039
I think also the I I feel all of this is brought up a lot in my head, but I think the fact that there is so clearly a lack of value put on women also is just like it just gobsmacks me.

00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:19.039
Like I cannot there's just no value short of being a sexual thing, zero value that women hold.

00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:39.359
I mean, that's what that's what has been so hard, I think, to digest in learning and reading more and more about I mean never mind the fact that there's zero value to poor people, right?

00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:40.640
Sure for these elite.

00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:43.680
We are not the land of the free, right?

00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:45.039
Never have been.

00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:50.240
Like we are a country founded on devaluing human beings for profit.

00:29:50.240 --> 00:30:03.200
That is that is and and all you know, people of color, black women, black have been yelling at us for decades.

00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:08.160
Like, we know, and so I, you know, yes, you do not owe me any words.

00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:09.920
You do not owe me any words.

00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:11.759
I apologize, you know.

00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:29.839
Like, I feel like yes, but we are fundamentally constructed on that, like that is the foundation of our nation is the devaluation and destruction of other human beings for profit of of a of a clo it's it is such a class system that I, you know, how do you get past that?

00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:30.720
I don't know.

00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.759
That's for somebody smarter than me to figure that out.

00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:42.079
But it there is such a class system and these elite cabal of men, right?

00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:51.119
That see poor people as cogs working little cogs in their little schemes to make them more money.

00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:58.480
And then one step lower than that are the women who are there just for their entertainment and enjoyment.

00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:00.240
And that's it.

00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:04.400
It's a lot to process.

00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:07.839
So yeah.

00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:09.359
I mean, we would tell it rabble.

00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:10.400
It's not even a rabble.

00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:13.200
It's just more like the context, I guess.

00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:14.720
That's why it felt so relevant.

00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:18.160
It's and I imagine that there, I imagine all women.

00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:19.039
Oh, I know.

00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:20.240
I remember what I was gonna say.

00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:21.279
ADHD.

00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.440
All women are disturbed.

00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.799
Like you should be disturbed.

00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:35.279
And it's if you're not, it's because you're not listening or you're so like I I don't know.

00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:39.359
I know, and I won't, I guess I'll say this too, and you're probably thinking the same thing.

00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:50.160
Like, I know that there are women who are not, who are not bothered, who don't believe it, who are doing the like sleep thing again.

00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:52.000
Yeah, this is their fault.

00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.039
You know what I mean?

00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:54.240
Like it just really is.

00:31:54.240 --> 00:32:03.519
And so when you think about the slippery slip of you, when people ask the question, why don't we care about school shootings?

00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.440
This is why.

00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.720
Like we don't care.

00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:09.839
Yeah.

00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:13.440
I yeah, and I think that's the the just don't care.

00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:34.319
Like it's been, I mean, when the ground that we walk on was founded on the extermination of other human beings, unless that nation has had some sort of moral reconciliation.

00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:45.200
Yeah, it is a very small step from dehumanizing women to dehumanizing children and back again.

00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:53.039
I I think you can point to literally any decision that this particular administration has made.

00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:59.119
Oh, and you can answer the question with whatever question you have with they don't care.

00:32:59.440 --> 00:32:59.839
Yes.

00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.359
Like that's truly that feels like it's the case.

00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:04.160
Yes.

00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:27.359
So So I I guess the culturally contextual conversation is the like, you know, are there memories, are there things that you have thought of just like shit that was in the water when we were like in middle school and high school, that looking back, you're like, whoa, I should not have been in that situation.

00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.920
What was this person thinking?

00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:45.039
I'm just thinking about how like social clout and like proximity to there was this like, it's not that we were looking to get with like old dudes, like our dad's age, but older dudes.

00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.359
Yes, older dudes, yeah.

00:33:47.359 --> 00:34:08.079
You know, and that approval was even if it was kind of creepy and gross, like if you got this external approval from older men, like that that was like okay, that it was fine.

00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:10.800
Yes.

00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:20.400
So I at in high school had a 23-year-old boyfriend for a little while.

00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:23.920
I mean, what the fuck?

00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.840
Looking back on that, like what the fuck?

00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:34.719
Now, to my grandma's credit, uh-huh, she did not like him.

00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:36.719
Oh, good, like at all.

00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:39.519
There was some sneaking around, right?

00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:47.199
Because of course which the 23-year-old was like totally down for, right?

00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:51.519
And like in hindsight now, do I want to hunt him down and like punch him?

00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:53.280
Be like, what the fuck, dude?

00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:54.320
Yeah, yeah.

00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:57.679
I mean, thankfully, like nothing happened, right?

00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:03.760
But still, uh-huh, just the idea of the whole thing is awful.

00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:05.679
Like, just terrible.

00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.880
Did you have anything like that, like growing up?

00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:10.239
I'm trying to think.

00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:19.119
Most of the like skeezy stuff I that happened was typically on like vacations, like the super skeezy stuff.

00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:24.079
There was the kind of like normal, like in the water.

00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:30.639
I mean, as much as like my grandmother was a badass, she was also out of the water that she was out of.

00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:32.559
And she's born in 1921.

00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:38.079
And she was very proud of me as a young person and as a swimmer.

00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:43.119
But there were moments where she would just be like, look at my granddaughter, isn't she so pretty?

00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:48.880
And I'm like, that man is really old and looking at me in a way that makes me uncomfortable.

00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:54.079
And I just don't, she wasn't like showing me off in a creepy way.

00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:54.559
Right.

00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.920
But just like the con she thought of me as a little girl.

00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:04.480
And I don't think she was holding in mind that that man might like little girls in that way.

00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:05.360
Yeah.

00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:10.079
You know, so it would be like these kind of, and I was just like, oh yeah, that was fucking creepy.

00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.519
But there was, I did flash back to something.

00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.519
I was like in Florida for a week.

00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.519
My grandmother had taken me.

00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.400
I had met this really cool girl at the pool.

00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:25.039
I think we were both like 14 or 15 years old, hanging out.

00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.480
Maybe she had said, nope, this is important.

00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:32.719
She'd actually, I think I was 15 and she'd said she was 16 years old.

00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.199
We were hanging out at the pool, swimming, but we all kind of like said we were 16 years old.

00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:41.280
For some reason, 16 was like a magical age to like hang out with older boys.

00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:50.719
How many, how many movies or not movies, how many songs were about like I mean, movies too, but like songs about, you know, she was.

00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.239
I mean, and if you look back, there's some lyrics that are so gross.

00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:55.199
So gross.

00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:59.039
So we'd just like been all at the same condos all week.

00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.519
We met these kind of cool guys.

00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:14.000
I remember probably he was like 24, 25, and he was like in the military, and he was a cool dude.

00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:18.559
Like we were just friends, and I must have been 16.

00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:20.719
I must really have been in real life.

00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:24.639
Like, we just hung out, and wherever we were, it was a beach you could drive on.

00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.639
And my grandmother just let me go hang out with whatever.

00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:34.239
So, like, we were driving, and I remember him saying he really liked this other girl at the pool.

00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:36.719
And I was like, Great, because I'm not really into you.

00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:41.920
But I specifically remember him going, yeah, but it's just not okay.

00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:43.599
And I was like, why does it matter?

00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:44.559
She's 16.

00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:46.719
And he goes, No, she lied.

00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:48.559
She's really 14.

00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:50.480
Yes.

00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:55.199
And so he was fully 10 years older than her.

00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:59.840
And in my child mind, I mean, I was like, oh, that's weird.

00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:00.880
But I was instead of.

00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:04.719
I mean, thank God he at least saw that that was not okay.

00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.199
I don't think it kept him from taking her out on a date, though.

00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:10.079
Ew.

00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:11.360
Right.

00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:13.599
But he did acknowledge it.

00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.920
But it was just this moment where, like, I didn't go home and say anything.

00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:26.719
You know, and I'm sitting here thinking, like, if you go back and you read history.

00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:28.079
Oh, yeah.

00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:43.039
And you know, you know, how things were with young girls being trafficked off to old dudes, you know, with a dowry and a of a, I don't know, a cow and a oh yeah.

00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.199
I mean, you're just an asset.

00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:46.400
Gold coins.

00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:47.119
Yep.

00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.840
I mean, what the fuck really has changed?

00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:51.039
Exactly.

00:38:51.039 --> 00:39:05.119
In fact, in fact, if I'm really not even if I'm arguing about this, it's like that loss of women as commodity that sort of for some people like fuels this.

00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:09.920
It's almost like a in your DNA kind of entitlement.

00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:11.360
I don't know.

00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:12.559
That's my theory in the moment.

00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.000
God, the whole thing is gross.

00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:15.039
It's so awful.

00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:33.440
So it really has just made me think because, like, I don't ever remember my daughter and her friends talking about how great it was that that 20-something or 30-year-old dude was like, isn't he hot?

00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:35.440
He totally whistled at me.

00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:36.480
You know what I mean?

00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.119
Like, there has been a cultural shift.

00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:40.719
I think that is true.

00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:41.920
I think that's true.

00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:50.880
And that's probably, hopefully, maybe why this isn't going to get brushed aside.

00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:51.360
Right.

00:39:51.360 --> 00:40:14.480
Like, I think if it were I think if it were our generation, and I love our generation, we would be more likely to I hate saying this, but I feel like we would turn a blind eye to it a lot more, or just try to button it up really fat.

00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:19.760
Like they would just prosecute like low level, it wouldn't go to the highest heights.

00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:21.840
It would just, we'd button it up and say it was.

00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:23.679
Maybe sorted.

00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:24.400
Yeah.

00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:24.960
Right.

00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:27.920
Somebody's grown under the bus.

00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:34.960
I like to think that the younger generation, the people underneath us, are not gonna let that happen.

00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.400
They're going to want justice.

00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:48.639
They're gonna want the because it is so, I think to your point, it is very foreign for for this generation.

00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:54.000
Like my because I I agree, my daughter would never, I've never heard her say that.

00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:59.280
I can't, I can't fathom No, they're instantly like, what the fuck's wrong with you, motherfucker?

00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:06.639
I mean, these they really and like they were younger hearing Me Too movement, right?

00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:13.599
Like younger hearing us talk about like, don't do this, don't do this, like, and that's not your job.

00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:17.360
It is not your job to manage someone else's behavior.

00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.280
Like, we have the language of boundaries.

00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:20.639
It is not your job.

00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:25.039
You are not responsible if someone approaches you in an inappropriate way.

00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:26.880
That is not your fault, right?

00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:28.880
Like, you come to us.

00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:36.559
You wear what you want to fucking wear, and it's somebody else's responsibility to keep their hands off of you.

00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.119
Yes, because of what you're wearing.

00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:40.079
It shouldn't matter.

00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:42.719
Because that's an impulse disorder.

00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:43.440
Right.

00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.079
Like the fuck out.

00:41:46.079 --> 00:42:06.239
You know, I also think that this the younger generations, the parents of younger generations are generally speaking doing a pretty good job about not requiring their daughters to go kiss their uncle or God, yeah, you know, or hug hug so-and-so on your way out the door.

00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:10.400
Like, I don't you don't hear that shit either, thankfully.

00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:10.960
Yes.

00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.760
Um and I'm sure it still happens out there, right?

00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:14.719
Absolutely.

00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.760
Uh we can only speak for like our experience.

00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:24.239
I mean, broadly, like in this whole conversation, like I'm a 52-year-old white lady in the Midwest.

00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:34.480
I can really only speak to my lived experience and then the information that I like taken around me and the fact that I like fucking paid attention in history.

00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:38.400
And I believe people when they tell me that they have been harmed, you know.

00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:47.599
But it's yes, I absolutely there are people that are like, nope, you still need to go kiss your weird uncle in the corner.

00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:52.320
I don't even want to assign weird uncle a name because I'm gonna upset somebody.

00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.760
You know who you're talking about, though.

00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.079
We all know who you're talking about.

00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:00.239
So it's just like, ugh.

00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:03.920
But that was that was just sort of what I've been sitting with all week.

00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:10.800
It's just like, man, I knew I was unprotected and I knew that I got myself out of like some tough moments.

00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:23.119
And I was like, and I remembered like this guy in his 40s when I was like 18, and just thinking, I guess that's cool, you know, like, but there was it was just like you just dealt with it, right?

00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:39.360
You just dealt with the attention, and it's nicer to like go along to get along, to not get your ass like hit, yeah, or it's just like you learn to smile and be nice and placate and like you learn to survive in those situations.

00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:45.599
And so just seeing all of this and hearing I mean, it's awful, right?

00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:53.760
I we're not even gonna unpack it all here because people are unpacking it very well in other places, but it's just like man, man.

00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:59.360
But it it is, it is a it is a a unique, I think.

00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:05.519
Look on this from that Gen X woman's perspective, right?

00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:09.920
Where it's just I mean, you make such a good point.

00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:12.239
It really was normal.

00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.440
It was entirely normal.

00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:26.159
And nobody, nobody was coming forward and telling us, hey, ladies, yes, this is weird and gross.

00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:32.719
Like, you know, so thankfully, we're, you know, hopefully we are the ones telling the younger generations now.

00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:34.239
No, that is weird and gross.

00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:34.639
Yeah.

00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:36.079
Adam's fucking lately.

00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:37.440
It doesn't work.

00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:37.920
No.

00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:41.440
It's fucking weird that Leonardo DiCaprio is going out with 20-year-old.

00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:42.880
No, fucking weird.

00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:49.440
So that is something my daughter has, I mean, she has talked about that so many times.

00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.480
Just like, what the fuck is wrong with this guy?

00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:54.320
What do you have to talk about?

00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.039
You have no shared lived experience.

00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:06.800
And and what's funny is like when she turned 25, we said to her, sorry, you're you're too old for Leo now.

00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:10.159
Like, that's fucking gross.

00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:15.119
So men, men, raise your sons.

00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:16.719
Raise yourselves.

00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:18.800
Raise yourselves.

00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:20.559
Get it together.

00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:27.920
Women continue to claim your space and walk down the center of the fucking sidewalk.

00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:29.280
And hell yeah.

00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:31.920
Don't feel like you owe somebody a smile.

00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:34.559
Just if you want to smile at somebody, smile at somebody.

00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.960
But that's if you want to smile at somebody.

00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:37.519
Yes.

00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:43.280
And if someone old fucking dude looks at you and says, You you should smile more.

00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.559
I mean, you've got my permission to tell them to fuck off.

00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:50.639
Fuck off, motherfuckers.

00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:54.639
That's really that was what was burning this week.

00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:56.000
I I don't want to.

00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:00.719
I could talk about it forever, but I think we've given it the high level.

00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:01.920
It's a lot.

00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:03.599
High level conversation.

00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:12.559
Maybe it would be useful to try to connect with the ways in which we are surviving.

00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.119
And oh, we should like well aware.

00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:18.639
Lots of other horrific shit has happened in the past few weeks, y'all.

00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:21.840
We know we've had a lot of conversations.

00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:27.280
So please do not let us picking one topic mean that we are excluding other topics.

00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:28.719
No, we are very aware.

00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:32.159
We are super aware and super pissed.

00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:36.559
Popping my anxiety medication like tic-tacks.

00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:43.599
So what is giving you a reprieve in this moment?

00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.079
Any tiny amount of joy?

00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:52.559
I'm taking a very brief hiatus to Disney World in a couple of weeks.

00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:53.760
So lucky.

00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:57.199
My husband and I are gonna go for just like four days.

00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:57.920
Oh, nice.

00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.599
Because I have told him I need it.

00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:04.000
Like it is my it is my escape.

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:06.159
It is, is it candy?

00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:06.800
Yes.

00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.039
Is it bad for me?

00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:09.679
No.

00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:10.079
No.

00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:10.480
You know?

00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:13.039
If you've got the resources, do the thing.

00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:13.519
Yeah.

00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:14.400
I can go there.

00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:15.840
I can turn off my phone.

00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:22.800
I can just pretend like nothing bad exists in the world for you know for four days.

00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:26.079
And dissociation is important upon occasion.

00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:34.320
And if you're like reading lots of books or watching lots of movies or find yourself scrolling on your phone for a couple of hours, like it's okay.

00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:36.880
Yes, protect your mental health.

00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:46.480
I I do recommend if you are not a great British bake-off watcher that you start watching all of those previous seasons of that.

00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:47.840
It's fabulous.

00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:48.239
Okay.

00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:51.199
It makes me feel warm and cozy and happy.

00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:52.960
That's during COVID.

00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:58.000
I watched the TV show The Good Place because it too was warm and cozy.

00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:04.400
And I am embarrassed to admit that I was not a queer eye fan.

00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.760
I only not I wasn't, I wouldn't say I wasn't a fan.

00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.360
I love the idea of it.

00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:10.719
I just had never watched it.

00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:12.320
I never got around to watching it.

00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:12.880
Yeah.

00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.280
And so I'm starting that.

00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:16.719
I'm like so brilliant.

00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:17.280
You're gonna cry.

00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:18.559
I know.

00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:23.519
I watched the first episode of season 10 just like two days ago.

00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:26.079
And I fucking love it.

00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:27.039
Yeah, it's joy.

00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:31.840
It's so sweet, it's genuine.

00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:33.039
It oh god.

00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:38.000
Yeah, I mean, that's a really good I would throw into that list before I pivot.

00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:39.679
Go rewatch Ted Lasso.

00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:40.559
Okay.

00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:43.119
Ted Lesso brings all the good to the world.

00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:48.000
And in that same vein, it's like go spend time with other people and do good things.

00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.000
Yes, volunteer somewhere.

00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:58.880
If you can go walk a dog or like our any animal care control here is like way over, they've got way too many pets.

00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:04.000
And they did a call for blankets, and I was just like, oh, I have a ton of fucking blankets I need to get rid of.

00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:06.159
So I'm gonna go do a blanket drop-off.

00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:13.199
It's small, but those little pets that are living in miserable conditions, which also makes me sad, you know, it's just like look around.

00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.440
There, it doesn't have to be a big lift.

00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.199
If you can send five dollars somewhere, send five dollars.

00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:29.440
If you want to go volunteer and in a hunger relief kitchen or volunteer to walk the dogs at your local shelter, they would love to do that.

00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:33.519
There's a few in our neighborhood.

00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:37.519
Like I will, you know, if it's if I have one thing, I put one thing.

00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:44.639
But those small things like matter and it just keeps you kind of connected to your own soul.

00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:50.159
You know, like it matters how we engage with the people around us.

00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:57.039
It matters how we consider and interact with other people, and it matters how we talk to ourselves.

00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:01.519
So don't forget those in dissociation land.

00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:12.159
All of that constant noise and trying to keep you off your feet, you know, keep you off balance, all of that is real.

00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:21.920
And if you can protect your own sanity a little bit and bring a little bit of joy and happiness into the world, it'll make you feel better.

00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:27.199
It distracts you from you know the maddening chaos.

00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:28.000
Yeah.

00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:29.920
Yeah.

00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:31.519
Brilliant.

00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:35.920
I think that's our episode for today.

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You don't have to kiss your creepy uncle.

00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:39.599
And you do not.

00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:41.840
You don't have to give hugs.

00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:45.039
No, you don't have to give foot massages.

00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.280
I mean, unless it's your kink and you really want to.

00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:56.639
Yeah, I mean, if you're like into that, it's your thing.

00:50:56.639 --> 00:50:59.519
But if it's your grandpa, you can say no.

00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:01.280
It's okay.

00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:02.719
Yep.

00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:03.039
No.

00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:05.840
They make they make machines for that.

00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:08.159
They do.

00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:09.360
You just buy a machine.

00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:12.159
I want to know that a hometic foot massager.

00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:16.559
Go to Kohl's and you just hand that off at the white elephant.

00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:17.760
There you go.

00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:18.719
Here you go.

00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:20.159
Awesome, friends.

00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:30.880
Well, we'll be back in a couple weeks with something a little lighter, but this just felt too big and important to us, to the world.

00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:33.119
Just really timely and relevant.

00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:36.000
And so we wanted to kind of have a conversation about it.

00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.239
Yes, ma'am.

00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:39.119
All right.

00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:40.960
See you in a couple weeks.

00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:45.360
If you guys have want to chime in, oh my gosh, what do you think?

00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:46.719
You know, we're here.

00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:48.000
We'd love to hear from you.

00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:49.599
So feel free to do that.

00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:50.880
And uh yeah.

00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:52.880
Take care of yourself, Leslie.

00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:54.079
You too, sister.

00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:58.000
You have been listening to Gen X Women Are Sick of This Shit.

00:51:58.000 --> 00:51:59.440
Hey Megan.

00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:00.559
Hey, Leslie.

00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.960
What do people do if they want to find us?

00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:10.639
Well, we have a website that people can find us on, and that is GenXwomenpod.com.

00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:13.679
We also have a Facebook page.

00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:16.400
We have an Instagram account as well.

00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:22.639
We have a YouTube account where we put YouTube shorts and other little tidbits up there.

00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:24.239
We have a TikTok account.

00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:25.599
I don't talk the tick.

00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:27.280
You know, TikTok?

00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:31.519
I barely talk the tick, but I did put a TikTok.

00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:33.119
Or explain the internet.

00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.280
That's okay though.

00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.440
We need to know how the internet works.

00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:39.440
Can people buy merch?

00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:40.480
They absolutely can.

00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:44.079
We have a merch store on the website itself.

00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:46.400
And we also have an Etsy store too.

00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:47.920
So they're just pretty easy to find.

00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:49.920
It's just Gen X Women.

00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:51.280
Etsy.

00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:56.559
And if you are listening to this podcast, presumably you found it somewhere.

00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:59.280
And while you're there, give us a review.

00:52:59.280 --> 00:52:59.840
Yeah.

00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:01.360
Let us know what you think.

00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:02.719
Throw some stars at us.

00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:03.440
That'd be great.

00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:06.239
Take one, two, three, four, or five.

00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:07.280
Ooh, five.

00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:07.599
Maybe.

00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:13.920
And and also make sure that you are hitting subscribe so that you're notified whenever a new episode drives.

00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:15.280
Most important.

00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.119
We also have a five minutes of fame that I think we should tell people about it too.

00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:22.960
Hell yes! We want to know your stories, your five minutes of fame stories.

00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.519
You can send those stories in on the website.

00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:35.679
Or you can call 1888 Gen X Cod and leave your story for us, and we will play it live in our next episode.

00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:36.079
Yep.

00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:40.239
We'll listen to it on a little red phone just like Batman.

00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:44.880
That'd be a bat phone.

00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:47.039
I think that's it.

00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:48.079
I think we're right.